I use VoiceOver in OS X these days. I don't have linux on a stand-alone machine to do that currently.
I have tried orca in a virtualbox session, but found it a little choppy (VM problems). On Aug 13, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Ed wrote: > Technomage, you might try a dedicated command line news reader to > better consume PLUG emails in audio - ask Dennis about some of the > alternatives. > do you use Emacs for your speech tool? > The reason for bottom posting is made at the bottom of this email - > you can skip that. > > Ed > > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Mark Phillips > <m...@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote: >> How does one get gmail to "prune the excess"? I have tried highlighting just >> the lines I want to quote and then clicking on reply, but I get the entire >> message and all the history. Do I have to manually delete all the lines I >> don't want in each reply? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mark >> >> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Stephen <cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> This Has been turned into a heated debate twice here since i was on >>> list, I prefer top post with relevant information added below, trimmed >>> if excessive. But thats just me. >>> >>> there are many on list that would heatedly argue for a bottom post so >>> they have the history first. who knows. I have liked how Gmail can >>> prune the excess for me. >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:12 PM, John <jhari...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> I like top posting myself but some lists will run you off for top >>>> posting so I just bottom post to be on the safe side. >>>> >>>> --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Technomage_Hawke <technomage.ha...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> From: Technomage_Hawke <technomage.ha...@gmail.com> >>>>> Subject: request you top post please >>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> >>>>> Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 7:47 PM >>>>> I know we've had this discussion >>>>> before but I need to ask again. >>>>> >>>>> will you folks at least top post your replies. I find it >>>>> difficult yo go through all those replies to get to the >>>>> response at the bottom. If you think I am kidding, please >>>>> imagine yourself either reading this list by braille or >>>>> listening to it by text to speech. believe me, 2 or 3 >>>>> replies deep with the plug advertisement in between gets old >>>>> fast. >>>>> >>>>> Believe me, I don't make this request lightly. I had recent >>>>> changes in what was left of my eyesight, thus making it >>>>> impossible for me to even read large print. before I would >>>>> work around this problem by skimming. I can't do that >>>>> anymore. I have to depend on speech for now until I get >>>>> braille trained. >>>>> > > > Top posting is done in the business world because business emails only > get reviewed by lawyers. > Lists that may be reviewed for technical insight, or to understand a > problem should be bottom posted so that the sequence of > question-refinement-answer-confimation is preserved. > PLUG is nominally a technical list - so post as you wish, just know > that when you are scolded, you earned it. btw trimming email cruft is > appreciated. > > The ability to filter on posting style does not (yet) exist in an > email client - ymmv > and yes gmail makes a bottom posted sequence of emails very readable - > with little kbrd/mouse > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
