> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Michael Havens <bmi...@gmail.com> > To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> > Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 01:31:00 -0700 > Subject: Re: ide-eide > This one is even better! Which seller should I go with? Has anyone heard > of any of them? > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Michael Havens <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> My computer (IBM NetVista was produced sometime between 2000 and 2002. >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_NetVista) >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Stephen <cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I have an old ed 120 gb drive. Only reason I don't use it is because its >>> noisy as hell. >>> >>> In this case I would really look into a small hardware update if you can >>> as your hitting a limit for replacement availability. >>> >>> And if you get a new Seagate or wd drive (retail not OEM) you can >>> usually get some tools to sidestep some of those limits. But if the >>> hardware can see it Linux will use it. >>> On Nov 20, 2011 12:30 AM, "Michael Havens" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> i need too look closer... it is a lap top drive. Darn! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Michael Havens <bmi...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> how about this drive: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ide+hard+drive&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7836135078448000879&sa=X&ei=vqrITpTSDqOyiQKi4837Dw&ved=0CLwBEPICMAM >>>>> >>>>> it is only 80 gb. Is that too big? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Michael Havens <bmi...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I gave up on the external hd aspirations because my mobo probably >>>>>> won't boot a USB. You say that older mobos have problems recognizing >>>>>> larger >>>>>> disks.... 160 gb is probably one of those. Could I partition it maybe and >>>>>> it would see more of it... is there a work around? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Let me add some hard disk advice, regardless of whether you do >>>>>>> IDE/PATA or SATA. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Laptop-class drives (2.5") are smaller and slower than a >>>>>>> desktop-class drive (3.5"). BUT the laptop drives are much tougher, >>>>>>> esp. >>>>>>> in terms of drop-resistance, and put out a lot less heat. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You'll pay more for the gigabyte for a laptop-class drive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you're using a laptop IDE drive in a desktop computer, you need >>>>>>> an adapter to make it work. Costs $5 at Fry's Electronics. On SATA >>>>>>> drives >>>>>>> the connectors are the same for laptop or desktop. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have a motherboard without SATA support, a SATA PCI adapter >>>>>>> card is very cheap - about $20 tops (Fry's has tons). It can be a much, >>>>>>> much better idea to buy a SATA drive plus PCI adapter now as opposed to >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> IDE drive for an older motherboard. By jumping to SATA right away you >>>>>>> gain >>>>>>> the ability to upgrade to a hotter SATA-support motherboard later. And >>>>>>> usually, the SATA PCI adapter card will let you run a big SATA drive on >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> motherboard that doesn't otherwise support big IDE/PATA drives, because >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> SATA PCI adapter takes over a lot of the hard disk support firmware from >>>>>>> the motherboard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The best hard disks today are made by Western Digital, in my >>>>>>> opinion. A very close second is Seagate. Comparatively speaking, the >>>>>>> Japanese such as Hitachi, Toshiba and Fujitsu suck. In terms of >>>>>>> reliability Samsungs from Korea are actually better than the Japanese >>>>>>> drives. Maxtor is Seagate's "budget line" - avoid. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you're buying an external drive that is NOT made by one of the >>>>>>> above drive-makers (LaCie, Buffalo, SimpleTech, many MANY more) then >>>>>>> you're >>>>>>> buying a pig in a poke. You have no idea what brand of actual drive is >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> there unless you either crack the case open (breaking the warrantee most >>>>>>> likely) or you use software tools to probe the make/model info. If >>>>>>> however >>>>>>> you buy a Western Digital external drive fr'instance, you can take it to >>>>>>> the bank that there's a WD drive in there. Same concept for all the >>>>>>> rest, >>>>>>> except that Seagate owns Maxtor and might slap a Maxtor drive under a >>>>>>> Seagate-brand chassis. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope this helps, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:18 PM, JD Austin <j...@twingeckos.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IDE, EIDE, and PATA (Parallel ATA) have the same interface. >>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Older motherboards may have trouble recognizing larger drives. >>>>>>>> IDE/EIDE/PATA is on it's way out.... get SATA if you have a choice >>>>>>>> since it's unlikely you'll find a motherboard with EIDE on it. >>>>>>>> Open Box= someone else didn't like it. >>>>>>>> I'd go SATA if I were you (supports native hot swapping). >>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA >>>>>>>> I often use laptop drives for such things. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 18:48, Michael Havens <bmi...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> this is the ad: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.macconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=8239542&cm_mmc=Base-_-8239542-_-Used-_-WN3&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=8239542 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Michael Havens >>>>>>>>> <bmi...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have a sales guy telling me at http://www.macconnection.com/that >>>>>>>>>> an eide drive (theirs) will work on an IDE system. Is this true. As >>>>>>>>>> stated before I don't know if my system is ide or eide. I have an IBM >>>>>>>>>> NetVista computer. This is what they're trying to sell: >>>>>>>>>> Open Box Western Digital 160GB Caviar SE EIDE 3.5" Hard Drive - >>>>>>>>>> 8MB Cache >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss<http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss<http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss<http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss<http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss> >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss<http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: >
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