On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 07:50 +0800, Anuerin Diaz wrote:
> On 4/28/05, Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 20:20 +0800, Holden Hao wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 10:04, Tito Mari Francis Esca�o wrote:
> > > > If to be a member, one must have endorsement from two (2) members in
> > > > good standing, how about individuals who are new in the community?
> > > > Possibly we haven't even met.
> > >
> > > I could not find the 2-member endorsement section in the draft.  Has it
> > > been changed?
> > >
> > > Or is this a suggestion?
> > 
> > Like what the name mentions - it's a draft - we have just concluded
> > earlier during the PLUG Board meeting the remaining provisions that
> > would be added to the membership guidelines.
> > 
> > The requirement of having two members that would endorse applicants will
> > still be there, as it's one way of building out a "circle of trust".
> > Since I've already met Holden Hao personally, I could vouch for him to
> > become a PLUG member. I'm sure there could be other people from PLUG who
> > have also met him. From thereon Holden can start forming the "circle of
> > trust" from his locality. That way we could ensure that there would
> > always be at least two members in the chain that would know a particular
> > member or applicant.
> > 
> 
> again my question of why should the 'circle of trust' be limited to
> physical acquaintances? assuming that i can endorse, i would not think

It's not really "limited" to physical acquaintances. I just made that as
an example. Physical acquaintances, or at least a referral from someone
who would know the person, are preferred as we are really assured that
the person being referred to really exists. But that doesn't stop anyone
from referring someone he or she hasn't met except at the mailing lists
or the IRC chat room - that happens all the time (even in my case too).

> twice about endorsing holden even though i have not met him
> physically. i dont even know how he looks like in person. why would i
> endorse him, its because i know he is doing something for the adoption
> of FLOSS here in the country and he gives valuable time support for
> the linux newbies within and outside of the PLUG mailing lists. the
> last one alone is enough for me to qualify anybody for PLUG
> membership.
> 
As long as there would be someone who'd vouch for the person's existence
we'd have no problem there. The primary criterion though would still be
someone's contributions to the community. Verifying if the person is
indeed who he or she is is another criterion. 

> physical meetings are fine but i would rather have a trust that was
> developed in time rather than one that came from chatting once while
> on an event.

We won't refer anyone anyway just because we've met them physically -
usually it starts with some people whose names can be recalled from the
mailing lists or other activities. That would take time. Usually it
starts in the mailing lists when people help other people - there we
could get name recall. 


-- 
Paolo Alexis Falcone
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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