On 10/2/07, Tito Mari Francis Escaño <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wait a minute... I'm confused there: Linux/*BSD developers == > desktop/server builders?
I was oversimplifying sorry. I don't have much of a choice, really. I cant single out a group of distribution builders or a group of upstream developers that dictate architecture. Its the whole community. The conventional wisdom is causing the problem. > Can you pls clarify that? > > I believe that its wrong to make a distinction between desktop pc and servers. desktop pcs should be as secure and stable as servers and servers should be as easy to use as desktops. And the ease of use im talking about is not about mac style guis. i actually find them all hard to use. i dont like multilevel menus. i dont like remembering what application to use on a file. and i dont like to remember filenames. i dont even want to see files and handle them manually. focus stealing, muscle memory busting, cts inducing popups and overlapping windows are the worst. Those drive me crazy. > On 10/2/07, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10/2/07, Tito Mari Francis Escaño <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The counter strategy I know as far as redundancy is concerned isn't > > > even Linux but still free and ope source: OpenBSD. > > > I apologize for this obvious deviation from list's topic. > > > > > > > Same situation. Actually its worse than linux. > > > > I think the root of the problem is the very basic assumptions held by > > the developers of these systems. > > > > 1. servers and desktops are different beasts > > 2. newbies and gurus are different beasts > > > > so they build servers that dont care about ease of use and build > > desktops thats easy to use and insecure and very expensive to develop. > > > > some even dress up expensive broken desktops as servers. > > > > > On 10/2/07, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 10/1/07, Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I would hardly call Linux the perfect OS for this kind of stuff. > > > > > Linux Virtual Server is not bundled out of the box and is not easy to > > > > > deploy. > > > > > > > > > > Windows 2003 Server has a cluster configuration GUI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah! > > > > > > > > Windows 2003 Server is displacing linux servers in the Philippines. > > > > > > > > anybody got a counter strategy? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Lay low and nourish in obscurity > > > > _________________________________________________ > > > > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > > > > [email protected] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) > > > > Read the Guidelines: http://linux.org.ph/lists > > > > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Tito Mari Francis H. Escaño > > > Computer Engineer and Free Software Proponent > > > _________________________________________________ > > > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > > > [email protected] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) > > > Read the Guidelines: http://linux.org.ph/lists > > > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > > > > > > > > -- > > Lay low and nourish in obscurity > > _________________________________________________ > > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > > [email protected] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) > > Read the Guidelines: http://linux.org.ph/lists > > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > > -- > Tito Mari Francis H. Escaño > Computer Engineer and Free Software Proponent > _________________________________________________ > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > [email protected] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) > Read the Guidelines: http://linux.org.ph/lists > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > -- Lay low and nourish in obscurity _________________________________________________ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List [email protected] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Read the Guidelines: http://linux.org.ph/lists Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph
