I agree that during POC you may have to let your guard down once in a while
just to get things done pronto but if you're the foremost IT agency of the
government and your idea of security is a joke, it's unthinkable.

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Orlando Andico <[email protected]>wrote:

> In my experience working inside a Huge Closed Source corporation and
> dealing with government:
>
> The reason why this is so, is because government agencies have a
> budget to pay the Huge Closed Source corporation. And for this budget,
> they expect the drones of H.C.S. (that's me!!) to do everything for
> them.
>
> Repeat this for many, many years (remember, government agencies WANT
> to use up their IT budget every year, otherwise it gets cut) and so
> you have folks who are more of PM's (e.g. they kick the butts of the
> technical / support / consulting people from vendors) than hands-on IT
> types.
>
> and I have to tell you guys: when I do a demo / PoC, even though I
> know better, in the interests of getting things done, more often than
> not I do the ff:
>
> /sbin/iptables -F
> /usr/sbin/system-config-securitylevel  (and then turn off SELinux and
> the firewall)
>
> I tell myself, the system is behind a system-wide firewall anyway...
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Cocoy Dayao <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 04 13, 09, at 1:15 PM, jan gestre wrote:
> >
> >> Even the much acclaimed/maligned CICT employs incompetent people,
> >> we're able to login to their MySQL database running on Fedora that
> >> has no root password, imagine that! sighhh
> >>
> >
> > You don't suppose Homer Simpson is running their box?
>
>
>
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