Reminds me of that bugtraq shutdown and resurrection in the last few weeks. Check it on lwn. On Apr 11, 2014 6:18 PM, "Rogelio Serrano" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 11 Apr 2014 05:06, "fooler mail" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > there is no point between open and closed source when it comes to > > security because of the premise there is no bullet proof system.. > > > > what im saying below that others claimed open source is much more > > secure than closed source is a big lie.. my point neither the open > > Can the open source community harass the reporter of the bug? Can the open > source community suppress the information? > > Have you ever been threatened with a lawsuit for finding a security hole? > > It's not nice at all. Usually they tell you you can't afford to say you > are right. > > It is for that reason alone they I trust open source more. > > Is it really about which is more secure? What matters is that discovery > and corrective action is transparent and possible. > > How can you fix a security hole when you don't have the code? Even a > website has proprietary code in it and cannot be ordinarily patched by > anyone willing to fix the html or whatever scripting language is used. > > > source nor closed source is more secure.. what ever security model you > > have... still human is the weakest link in the security chain... > > > > fooler. > > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Kelsey Hartigan Go > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Exactly my point. Regardless whether open source or proprietary. > > > > > > On Apr 11, 2014 10:06 AM, "fooler mail" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >> sql injection is not a bug on *any* sql server but on the application > > >> side not properly handle the parameter(s) as well as forgot to > > >> implement the principle of least privilege... adobe acrobat is another > > >> story... that's the reason why steve jobs against adobe products > > >> getting into ios because of the company closeness to malaking > > >> brother...unfortunately a year after job died... masansas joins papa > > >> rey in shouting match.. > > >> > > >> just keep in mind that there is no such thing as 100% bullet proof > > >> security system... whatever technique you implemented either security > > >> by obscurity or open security... > > >> > > >> fooler. > > >> > > >> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Kelsey Hartigan Go > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > It might be believed that big companies have security teams but > there > > >> > are a > > >> > number of security holes discoveries made by third parties instead > of > > >> > coming > > >> > from the companies. In some cases it also took a significantly long > > >> > time > > >> > for some to patch these holes. > > >> > Sql injection bug of sql server 2000 and Adobe acrobat pdf > vulnerability > > >> > comes to mind. > > >> > It is nice that a lot of these big companies release patches to > their > > >> > products but the frequency of these happening is quite high, making > me > > >> > feel > > >> > that they don't do sufficient security QA before product is > released. > > >> > > > >> > On Apr 11, 2014 7:54 AM, "fooler mail" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> big companies have their own security team who assess and protect > > >> >> their proprietary products... from the start of code development.. > > >> >> they integrated code scanner to see any vulnerabilities in the code > > >> >> and other security tools till it reach to a complete product... > > >> >> > > >> >> their reputation is based not only on the quality of the product > but > > >> >> on the security side as well... > > >> >> > > >> >> fooler. > > >> >> > > >> >> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Kelsey Hartigan Go > > >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > On the other hand since this is open source someone is bound to > find > > >> >> > the > > >> >> > hole. What about proprietary systems? > > >> >> > > > >> >> > On Apr 10, 2014 6:37 PM, "fooler mail" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> pluggers, > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> another action needed from you... if those sites listed in the > link > > >> >> >> below that you use their service, then you need to change your > > >> >> >> password... > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > http://mashable.com/2014/04/09/heartbleed-bug-websites-affected/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> its time to realize why opensource is not secured as what others > > >> >> >> claims to be... but of course... there are still plenty of > > >> >> >> undiscovered security holes waiting to be discovered by security > > >> >> >> engineers... when this heartbeat outbreak last Monday... I > spoke to > > >> >> >> my > > >> >> >> colleague yesterday as this is one of the projects of malaking > > >> >> >> brother > > >> >> >> who paid opensource developer working with a specific > application to > > >> >> >> insert backdoor codes... ( I have to use other words para hindi > > >> >> >> makita > > >> >> >> ni malaking brother scanner)... to my surprise.. he mentioned > to me > > >> >> >> that he worked at noviembre sierra alfa previously and he can > > >> >> >> confirmed on that but he wont go into the details... I also > said to > > >> >> >> him that I saw one backdoor in Linux kernel until now it is > still in > > >> >> >> there... you cant see by a normal cli command but it is there > > >> >> >> sitting > > >> >> >> innocently... > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> I made a statement in ph-cyberview a year or so ago that we are > not > > >> >> >> safe anymore... much worse if you are inside china.... > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> fooler. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:36 PM, fooler mail < > [email protected]> > > >> >> >> wrote: > > >> >> >> > hi drexx, > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > google security guy is the one who found the bug and google > fixed > > >> >> >> > their sites before sending the info to the community... > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > below is the site to test the bug vulnerability.. > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > http://packetstormsecurity.com/files/author/11160/ > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > fooler. > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Drexx Laggui [personal] > > >> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> 09Apr2014 (UTC +8) > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Here's a quick test on your localhost, & you don't even need > to > > >> >> >> >> be > > >> >> >> >> root... > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> drexx@MACHINE:~$ echo -e "quit\n" | openssl s_client > -connect > > >> >> >> >> google.com:443 -tlsextdebug 2>&1 | grep 'TLS server > extension > > >> >> >> >> "heartbeat" (id=15), len=1' > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> TLS server extension "heartbeat" (id=15), len=1 > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> drexx@MACHINE:~$ date; > > >> >> >> >> Wed Apr 9 21:02:58 PHT 2014 > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> drexx@MACHINE:~$ uname -a > > >> >> >> >> Linux MACHINE 3.11.0-19-generic #33~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed > Mar > > >> >> >> >> 12 > > >> >> >> >> 21:16:27 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Drexx Laggui -- CISA, CISSP, CFE Associate, ISO27001 LA, > CCSI, > > >> >> >> >> CSA > > >> >> >> >> http://www.laggui.com ( Manila & California ) > > >> >> >> >> Computer forensics; Penetration testing; QMS & ISMS > developers; > > >> >> >> >> K-Transfer > > >> >> >> >> PGP fingerprint = 0117 15C5 F3B1 6564 59EA 6013 1308 9A66 > 41A2 > > >> >> >> >> 3F9B > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Rudel Saldivar > > >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> And I may add this link for the exact patch version since > > >> >> >> >>> different > > >> >> >> >>> package > > >> >> >> >>> revision exist for different versions of Ubuntu - > > >> >> >> >>> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> Ubuntu 13.10: > > >> >> >> >>> libssl1.0.0 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2 > > >> >> >> >>> Ubuntu 12.10: > > >> >> >> >>> libssl1.0.0 1.0.1c-3ubuntu2.7 > > >> >> >> >>> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS: > > >> >> >> >>> libssl1.0.0 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12 > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> As for CentOS 6, they haven't release a patch version but > the > > >> >> >> >>> latest > > >> >> >> >>> available in the update repo have the heartbeat feature > disable, > > >> >> >> >>> interim > > >> >> >> >>> workaround so upgrade when you can: > > >> >> >> >>> http://www.spinics.net/lists/centos-announce/msg04910.html > > >> >> >> >>> http://www.spinics.net/lists/centos-announce/msg04910.html > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> ----- > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> -[ OpenSource, Open Ideas ]- > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:42 AM, fooler mail > > >> >> >> >>> <[email protected]> > > >> >> >> >>> wrote: > > >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >>>> pluggers, > > >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >>>> action needed from you if you are not aware with this > serious > > >> >> >> >>>> security > > >> >> >> >>>> hole... > > >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >>>> http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140407.txt > > >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >>>> update/patch your openssl package... create a new > private key > > >> >> >> >>>> using > > >> >> >> >>>> updated/patched openssl... create a new CSR based on that > new > > >> >> >> >>>> private > > >> >> >> >>>> key and update your https site(s) with a new signed > certificate > > >> >> >> >>>> (this > > >> >> >> >>>> includes self-signed certificate as well) > > >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________ > > >> >> >> >> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > > >> >> >> >> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug > > >> >> >> >> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > >> >> >> _________________________________________________ > > >> >> >> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > > >> >> >> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug > > >> >> >> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > _________________________________________________ > > >> >> > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > > >> >> > http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug > > >> >> > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > >> >> _________________________________________________ > > >> >> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > > >> >> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug > > >> >> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _________________________________________________ > > >> > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > > >> > http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug > > >> > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > >> _________________________________________________ > > >> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > > >> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug > > >> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________ > > > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > > > http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > _________________________________________________ > > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > > http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug > > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > _________________________________________________ > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >
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