The 1000 1000 are the id numbers of the owner and group that the owns the
file.  Since it is a number, and not your name, "jjj", that will be a
problem.  You should do a "sudo chown jjj.jjj * "after you move them to your
home directory.

Files with spaces and other special characters can be a problem.  You might
try ls A*.pdf and then add characters after the A until you get it down to
the one file you want.



On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:41 AM, John Jason Jordan <joh...@comcast.net>wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:04:50 -0500
> Robert Citek <robert.ci...@gmail.com> dijo:
>
> >To rewrite that in script form:
> >
> >true && (
> >set -x
> >ls -la ~/Desktop
> >) >& output.txt
> >
> >The advantage of putting the ls command in this script wrapper is that
> >the only thing the questioner has to post is the contents of the
> >output.txt file.  With the contents we can all verify that the command
> >was correctly entered.  That's what the 'set -x' does.  In addition,
> >we see its output along with any error messages.  That's what the
> >"(...) >&" construct does, grouping all the commands into a single
> >output stream.  The "true &&" is there so that the opening parenthesis
> >is more visible.  So with this wrapper we can view exactly what was
> >done and how, as there's always a chance that the command was
> >incorrectly typed (e.g. ls -1a)
> >
> >It also provides us with a means to see if the questioner can follow
> >instructions.  If they can type in a few lines of a script and send us
> >the output file, then there is a good chance of successfully resolving
> >the issue.  If not, well, that's a different issue.
> >
> >Regards,
> >- Robert
> >
> >On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:18 AM, William A Morita <wamor...@hevanet.com>
> >wrote:
> >> How about an "ls -la ~/Desktop" for us to look at ?
> >>
> >> - Bill Morita
>
> I still think that it is a bug somewhere.
>
> Last night when I temporarily lost my ethernet connection I rebooted. Just
> now
> I tried the ls command again, and now it is showing all of the files as it
> is
> supposed to. It shows all of them whether I am jjj or root.
>
> There must have been a gremlin somewhere yesterday. The disk must have been
> mounted at least read, else Thunar would not have been able to copy the
> files.
>
> In each and every case of a file that did not appear with the ls command
> (or cp
> or mv, or tab auto-completion) the permissions were -rw-------. All files
> that
> appeared were -rw-r--r--.
>
> I used the GUI to mount the drive. That is, on the Gnome desktop it
> appeared as
> Places > 136 GB drive. I just clicked on it and Nautilus demanded root
> password
> to mount it. I entered root password and then Nautilus displayed the
> contents.
>
> After mounting it I tried to drag files to ~/, but some would not copy -
> always
> the ones that had a white X on them, which I later discovered were
> -rw-------.
> >From past experience I knew that I cannot launch Nautilus as root; at
> least not
> from the command line. But I also knew how to copy files with the cp
> command.
> So I opened gnome-terminal, switched to root, and started with cd:
>
> [...@devil8 ~]# cd
> /media/afba6df9-befb-4643-a209-841c2476a989/home/jjj/Desktop/
>
> Then I tried:
>
> [...@devil8 Desktop]# cp App\ Ling\ F (tab here to auto-complete because
> it's
> a PDF with a long filename with lots of spaces)
>
> And the tab failed to auto-complete. So I manually typed in the filename
> and
> the destination ~/Desktop/<same filename>, but the cp command said there
> was no
> such file. So then I did:
>
> [...@devil8 Desktop]# ls -la *.pdf
>
> This command showed very PDF file in the folder except those that I later
> discovered were -rw-------. The file I was trying to copy was one of the
> ones
> that did not appear. Subsequently I tried to use mv, but got the same
> results.
> In other words, the -rw------- files were invisible in the terminal.
>
> Then I tried a different terminal. In fact I installed a different
> terminal,
> just for this occasion. I got the same results in the different terminal.
> In
> retrospect I should have used Ctrl-Alt-F2 to leave X and then try it again,
> but
> it did not occur to me at the time. But since I got the same results in two
> different terminal emulators, at least we know the problem is not in
> gnome-terminal.
>
> The Nautilus window was still open, so I right-clicked on one of the files
> with
> a white X on it, then Properties > Permissions, and ditto for one of the
> files without a white X. Nautilus doesn't do a very thorough job of
> displaying permissions, because I couldn't see any difference. Remember, I
> couldn't see -rw------- from the command line because the files were not
> appearing in the terminal.
>
> At that point I had been shaking my head and uttering increasingly vile
> oaths
> for too long, so I posted about the problem here.
>
> While waiting for suggestions from the list it dawned on me (again from
> past
> experience) that Thunar does launch as root from the command line. So I
> launched Thunar, opened a separate window for the Jaunty disk, and was able
> to
> copy all the -rw------- files by dragging and dropping. That gave me the
> practical results that I wanted, so the rest is trying to figure out what
> went
> wrong.
>
> Whatever was wrong was cured by rebooting and remounting the disk. Last
> night I
> got:(1)
>
> [...@devil8 ~]# cd
> /media/afba6df9-befb-4643-a209-841c2476a989/home/jjj/Desktop/
> [...@devil8 Desktop]# ls -la *.pdf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000   315678 2007-05-21 15:57 App Ling Spring 07
> Newsletter.pdf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000  4167276 2006-10-13 08:17
> Compaq_Maint_&_Service_Guide.pdf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000   277894 2009-11-14
> 19:23 irs_w9_filled_out.pdf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000   273592 2009-11-13 18:08
> irs_w9.pdf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000   120752 2007-07-22 09:09 Junicode.pdf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000  4611993 2007-10-29 14:46 Thinkpad_Maintenance.pdf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 46673207 2007-03-04 00:02
> Wiley.Ubuntu.Linux.Bible.Jan.2007.pdf
>
> (1) I had to emulate the above because rebooting wiped out the contents of
> the
> terminal from last night. But I remember clear as a bell that no -r-------
> files appeared and that the ls command showed exactly seven PDF files.
>
> This morning I get:
>
> [...@devil8 ~]$ cd
> /media/afba6df9-befb-4643-a209-841c2476a989/home/jjj/Desktop/
> [...@devil8 Desktop]$ ls -la *.pdf
> -rw------- 1 1000 1000   661091 2008-12-10 09:10 App Ling Fall 08
> Newsletter.pdf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000   315678 2007-05-21 15:57 App Ling Spring 07
> Newsletter.pdf
> -rw------- 1 1000 1000   673191 2009-06-17 09:16 App Ling Spring
> 09 Newsletter.pdf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000  4167276 2006-10-13 08:17
> Compaq_Maint_&_Service_Guide.pdf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000   277894 2009-11-14
> 19:23 irs_w9_filled_out.pdf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000   273592 2009-11-13 18:08
> irs_w9.pdf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000   120752 2007-07-22 09:09 Junicode.pdf
> -rw------- 1 1000 1000   389385 2008-12-12 19:24
> Smartups_900_users_manual.pdf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000  4611993 2007-10-29 14:46 Thinkpad_Maintenance.pdf
> -rw------- 1 1000 1000  4611993 2007-11-06 20:18 Thinkpad_Manual.pdf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 46673207 2007-03-04 00:02
> Wiley.Ubuntu.Linux.Bible.Jan.2007.pdf
>
> I have no idea why, but at the moment my vote goes for a bug. Stuff like
> this
> just shouldn't happen. I'd love to file a bug report, but against what?
> Plus, I
> don't know how to reproduce it.
>
>
>
>
>
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