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On 04/11/2017 10:17 PM, Thomas Groman wrote: > Can you maybe setup something yourself with some ubiquity radios? You > might get lucky and have a friend or something in Line OF Sight that has > good internet that is willing to put a dish up to share it. > > It's a long shot but it it Hughesnet we are talking about here. > > > On 04/11/2017 07:29 PM, Chuck Hast wrote: >> Yes, it is truly a sad solution, but where I live it is the only one. I >> often tell people >> that it is a good thing that the agriculture people who feed us do not >> treat us >> like Hughesnet treats them, we would all starve. >> >> If I get the job I am trying for, I will be moving, Indeed may spend part >> of my >> time in Costa Rica, wife is down there dealing with family things father in >> law >> wants us to move in his place, he is now by himself. I would get fibre at >> his >> home if I do so. All depends on the job I get here. I am working on a field >> service job that allows me to live anywhere near a airport on this side of >> the >> planet. >> >> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Thomas Groman <tgrom.autom...@nuegia.net> >> wrote: >> >>> oh gawd *Hughesnet* >>> >>> >>> On 04/11/2017 07:05 PM, Chuck Hast wrote: >>>> Oh, ok. Yes, I am looking at getting a WX proof modem, something that >>> uses >>>> PoE, and directional antennas, put a shack up on the ridge and use solar >>> or >>>> wind to keep it powered and run the link down to the house using some >>> fibre. >>>> Actually put up some sort of tower and mount the whole thing in a WX >>> proof >>>> box, put the radio and antenna up on top of the tower, and hang the box >>> at >>>> the bottom. The power and media converter will be in that box, perhaps >>> an- >>>> other box for the batteries below it. Keep the out gas out of the >>> equipment >>>> box. >>>> >>>> If I can get the AT&T offer of 250GB for $60/mo I will be very happy as >>> I am >>>> getting taken to the cleaners with Hughesnet. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 5:06 PM, wes <p...@the-wes.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I was referring to your idea of putting an LTE gateway up on a ridge. >>> Just >>>>> thinking of water and sun protection, nothing extraordinary. >>>>> >>>>> -wes >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Are you talking about ESD or physically protecting the device? The >>> remote >>>>>> sensors are wireless so a lightning strike would take them out but >>>>> probably >>>>>> not do much to the rest of it unless it comes through the 110v line, or >>>>> the >>>>>> EMP >>>>>> was too high, in that case there just is not much you can do about the >>>>> EMP, >>>>>> it is cheaper to replace the RPi and console that block for the EMP. I >>>>> used >>>>>> to >>>>>> live in lightning prone areas, Costa Rica and Tampa, FL. I have seen my >>>>>> fair >>>>>> share of lightning damage, one thing I learned was to run all long >>>>> network >>>>>> runs as fiber rather than Cat5/6. No issues with EMP with the fiber. >>>>>> >>>>>> The console and RPi are inside the home so they are protected. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 10:58 PM, wes <p...@the-wes.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you plan to use for weather protection? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -wes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tomás >>>>>>>> Sorry I should have got back on and told you I found it, but the >>>>>> charge >>>>>>>> rate >>>>>>>> is only 1.5 amp, the other unit is 2.0 amp. The RPi doing the WeeWx >>>>>> stuff >>>>>>>> pulls data every 60 seconds, writes to the DB and then sends it out >>>>> to >>>>>>> WU, >>>>>>>> CWOP and Findu.com. When it does that it pulls a wee bit more current >>>>>>>> that usual. So I am going to give the other unit a try as I have the >>>>>> PSU >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> it. I will also power the Acurite console off of it. If this works I >>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> a whole >>>>>>>> boat load of places I am going to do that trick. Indeed if we do not >>>>>> move >>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>> of this place, I am going to put an RPi up on the ridge above the >>>>>> house >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> a AT&T LTE modem on it, AT&T has an offer of 250GB/mo @ $60/mo or 500 >>>>>>>> GB/mo @ $100/mo. They just came out with the offer last month, it is >>>>>>>> directed >>>>>>>> at some states back east, but people are calling and getting the >>>>>> offering >>>>>>>> every- >>>>>>>> where they have put in LTE. At this time I have 50GB @ $110/mo with >>>>>>> Hughes >>>>>>>> net, and they suck royally. So I can put an RPi up on the ridge and >>>>> run >>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>> 500ft of fibre down to the house let the RPi handle the cell modem >>>>> and >>>>>>> get >>>>>>>> rid of Hughesnet. Whattavampire they are. That one I will power with >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> "kludge" as it will be a much better option there. May even try some >>>>>>> solar >>>>>>>> to see how much the batteries will keep up that way. Use an RPi to >>>>>>> monitor >>>>>>>> that too. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If I get the job I am angling for I will not need to worry about it, >>>>>> but >>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> always find something for an RPi to do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Follow the second link, scroll down to product description about >>>>> half >>>>>>>>> way through the page, and check the Duo-Charge Section: >>>>>>>>> Product description >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Offer Type:19200mAH >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> TeckNet PowerTitan T2 19200mAH >>>>>> External >>>>>>>>> Battery: >>>>>>>>> Save time when charging! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Duo-Charge: >>>>>>>>> The Duo-Charge function enables charging of the PowerTitan while it >>>>>>>>> recharges a connected device such as an iPhone or iPad. >>>>>>>>> ....... >>>>>>>>> Besides the battery capacity, there does not seem to be functional >>>>>>>>> difference between the chargers. Either of them should keep mostly >>>>>> idle >>>>>>>>> RPi running for at close to a day. I have 6500mAh USB charger >>>>> running >>>>>>>>> RPi + PWM hat + WiFi dongle + a few sensors on a robot cart for >>>>>> about 8 >>>>>>>>> -9-hours straight. The Pi lasts much longer than the other battery >>>>>> pack >>>>>>>>> feeding the motors. >>>>>>>>> I should have mentioned it in my original post, I thought that it >>>>> is >>>>>>>>> obvious: >>>>>>>>> If your RPi consumes close to or more than the charging current max >>>>>> 2A >>>>>>>>> (depending on your actual power supply) - about 10% to power the >>>>>>>>> charger = ~1800mA --> your battery pack will not recharge after the >>>>>>>>> outage. In such case you would have to come up with different UPS >>>>>>>>> solution. >>>>>>>>> Best luck, Tomas >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 2017-04-09 at 19:23 -0700, Chuck Hast wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Tomas, >>>>>>>>>> The second selection looks more like what I am looking for but >>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> first one >>>>>>>>>> will certainly work. But I do not see mention of pass through >>>>>>>>>> charging or >>>>>>>>>> charge while charging. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Went ahead and bought the first selection. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Nat Taylor <biob...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> I use something like that second battery to power my pi, it's >>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> a cell >>>>>>>>>>> phone charger, I'm not sure what running it while plugged in >>>>> does >>>>>>>>>>> to it's >>>>>>>>>>> life. One could put it on a timer so the power cuts, it >>>>> drains >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> battery for a while, then charges back up if that was >>>>>> advantageous >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> battery life... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 2:39 AM Tom < >>>>> tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are probably other USB power banks which can be charged >>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> discharged together. Here are two examples: >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/TeckNet-Universal-16750mAh- >>>>>>> Output-PowerZen >>>>>>>>>>>> /dp/B0 >>>>>>>>>>>> 0FAU7ZB2/ref=pd_cp_107_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i= >>>>>>> B00FAU7ZB2&pd_rd_ >>>>>>>>>>>> r=0JMM >>>>>>>>>>>> HXMXK7RYWY9K361K&pd_rd_w=712hM&pd_rd_wg=6mOCV&psc=1& >>>>>>> refRID=0JMMHX >>>>>>>>>>>> MXK7RY >>>>>>>>>>>> WY9K361K >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/TeckNet-Universal-16750mAh- >>>>>>>>>>> Output-PowerZen/dp/B00FAU7ZB2/ref=pd_cp_107_1?_encoding= >>>>>>>>>>> UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00FAU7ZB2&pd_rd_r=0JMMHXMXK7RYWY9K361K&pd_rd_ >>>>>>>>>>> w=712hM&pd_rd_wg=6mOCV&psc=1&refRID=0JMMHXMXK7RYWY9K361K> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/PowerTitan-19200mAh3-Port- >>>>>>> Portable-Externa >>>>>>>>>>>> l-Tech >>>>>>>>>>>> nology/dp/B01B534D4Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&srs=5713662011 >>>>>>> &ie=UTF8 >>>>>>>>>>>> &qid=1 >>>>>>>>>>>> 491729627&sr=1-1 >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/PowerTitan-19200mAh3-Port- >>>>>>>>>>> Portable-External-Technology/dp/B01B534D4Y/ref=sr_1_1?s= >>>>>>>>>>> wireless&srs=5713662011&ie=UTF8&qid=1491729627&sr=1-1> >>>>>>>>>>>> Based on recommendation from this guy: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://raspi-ups.appspot.com/en/index.jsp He used older >>>>> model >>>>>>>>>>>> which is >>>>>>>>>>>> no longer available. >>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder how smart is the circuit in avoiding the >>>>>>>>>>>> charge/discharge >>>>>>>>>>>> battery cycles when the power is on - it relates to the >>>>> battery >>>>>>>>>>>> life. >>>>>>>>>>>> Tomas >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2017-04-08 at 18:57 -0700, Chuck Hast wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Tom < >>>>>>>>>>>>> tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dd nor rsync alone will not be able to do full backup of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer (RPi). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That was what I figured, just wanted to make sure. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The best course of action is to separate the OS from your >>>>>>>>>>>>>> data - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever your RPi is normally writing - then backup each >>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * When you separate the data, you could even store it >>>>> off >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the RPi >>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoiding need for local data backups on RPi altogether. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The drive has two partitions on it /boot and /. /boot is a >>>>>>>>>>>>> vfat, the >>>>>>>>>>>>> rest >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> it is ext4. I supposed that I could stop the service >>>>> (weather >>>>>>>>>>>>> data >>>>>>>>>>>>> capture) >>>>>>>>>>>>> back up the files that are critical to the weather >>>>>>>>>>>>> station.After the >>>>>>>>>>>>> back up >>>>>>>>>>>>> is done start the service again. Maybe store them on a jump >>>>>>>>>>>>> drive and >>>>>>>>>>>>> after the station service is back up and running ship them >>>>>> off >>>>>>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> location >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will keep the back ups in. I figure that I could do the >>>>>> back >>>>>>>>>>>>> up in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the wee >>>>>>>>>>>>> hours of the morning. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * If you want to keep the data on RPi, you could back >>>>> it >>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rsync >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to separate media (USB) or a network storage >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * You cannot back up the OS while you are using it - >>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is why >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is normally done on a separate computer. It is easier and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> faster >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>>>>>>> booting your RPi from USB or network and then doing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> backup. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Perhaps the OS does not need to be backed up often or >>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you could simply create separate OS image, even on >>>>> another >>>>>> SD >>>>>>>>>>>>>> card >>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached to your Pi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> All I really need for recovery is the WeeWx db file, WeeWx >>>>>>>>>>>>> config >>>>>>>>>>>>> file, >>>>>>>>>>>>> skins >>>>>>>>>>>>> file and the nginx configuration. I could actually keep a >>>>>>>>>>>>> separate >>>>>>>>>>>>> image and >>>>>>>>>>>>> just insert the latest files and quickly swap out the bad >>>>> SD >>>>>>>>>>>>> card. >>>>>>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>>>>> take care of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I should be able to automate the OS configuration, so that >>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>> just run >>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> script >>>>>>>>>>>>> it looks for the SD card, installs the OS makes sure that >>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> parameters >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> I set manually on installation are set correctly, probably >>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>> automate the >>>>>>>>>>>>> whole process. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Your backup target/media could be another SD card >>>>>> connected >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> RPi >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a SD card reader, that way you could just swap the >>>>> cards >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thinking outside of a box - perhaps you need little UPS >>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your Pi >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoid regular data corruption altogether. There are some >>>>>> USB >>>>>>>>>>>>>> charging >>>>>>>>>>>>>> batteries which can be charged and used both at the same >>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (most >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be either charged or used, not both). Modest battery >>>>> could >>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pi running for hours. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been looking for a battery pack that will allow me >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> let it >>>>>>>>>>>>> float >>>>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>>> powersupply until power goes away, then it takes over. So >>>>> far >>>>>>>>>>>>> all of >>>>>>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have looked at will not switch between >>>>>>>>>>>>> charge/float/discharge. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> have seen >>>>>>>>>>>>> a couple that plug into the pin field on the RPi, but I am >>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>> keep >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> case clean. I have built up a power supply with a battery >>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, and >>>>>>>>>>>>> a heavy >>>>>>>>>>>>> duty USB dual port power cartridge that supplies the power >>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>> need for >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> RPi and the WX station console. It is kind of big, I am >>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly >>>>>>>>>>>>> looking >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the power pack batteries that does not care if it is >>>>>>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>>>>>>> charged or >>>>>>>>>>>>> not. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope that this is pointing you in the right direction >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular circumstances. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it confirmed most of what I was already suspecting. Now >>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can >>>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>>> find a nice clean battery pack that meets the above >>>>>>>>>>>>> requirement. >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> PLUG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> PLUG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> PLUG mailing list >>>>>>>>> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >>>>>>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- >>>>>>>> Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better. >>>>>>>> The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on. >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> PLUG mailing list >>>>>>>> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> PLUG mailing list >>>>>>> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >>>>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- >>>>>> Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better. >>>>>> The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> PLUG mailing list >>>>>> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >>>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PLUG mailing list >>>>> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PLUG mailing list >>> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
