Thanks for the help Tom. Looks to me that the new 14" model for an extra 
$20 is the same except for screen size so I'm leaning that way. The 
weight still comes in around 3 lbs. :-D.

Keep cool.

-Dave



On 9/4/2017 2:54 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote:
> I have it as general use shared laptop for the kids, anyone. Got it new
> about 2 years ago for $199 new. It is light, surprisingly well constructed,
> it has no fan, 2xUSB, HDMI and SD card slot. It lasts about 8 hours on
> battery.
>
>   The new/latest version has 4GB RAM and faster WiFi which would be nice,
> but it is good enough for browsing, Netflix, basic stuff.
>
> Note: It comes in funny blue color only. I do not believe that it is
> upgradable beyond plugging stuff to USB ports, or SD card. It is the only
> laptop I have not opened.
>
> It survived a lot of abuse, fully drained batteries, lot of car/plane
> travel, sticky fingers, .... Don't get me started!
>
> I run stock Ubuntu on it, currently 16.04
>
> I like it and would buy it again for this purpose.
>
> Tomas
>
> On Sep 4, 2017 1:17 PM, "Dave Lien - W7DAL" <w7...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Tom. I think you found the sweet spot with the HP Stream 11. No
> problem here giving up dual-boot. I'd rather have a good dedicated
> inexpensive lightweight RELIABLE Linux portable that has current
> hardware and will be good for a few years.
>
> If you have had a good experience with the HP Stream 11 as a dedicated
> no-hassle Linux machine I'm tempted to go with it. WalMart has them from
> ~$135 as does NewEgg for refurbs. What specific model have you had good
> luck with? I see there are many variations at different prices...?
>
> Any model to avoid?
>
> I presume it will boot USB and external USB DVD drive.
>
> And finally, is there any magic I need to know about when installing
> MINT and overwriting Windows and other crapware? I see some people have
> had problems installing MINT. (But I'll settle for any decent version of
> Linux.)
>
> -Dave
>
>
> On 9/4/2017 11:58 AM, Tomas Kuchta wrote:
>> If you decide to go for used thikpad X2x0 laptop. I cannot recommend
>> anything older than x220/x230 for many reasons - performance, power
>> consumption, too old architecture and age (you would be buying almost 10
>> years old laptop).
>>
>> In used Thinkpads, there is pretty awesome selection on Newegg Outlet.
>> Example for 2 years old x250:
>> https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=
> BESTMATCH&Description=X250&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1
>> You could get refurbished x250 for about $350 and over time upgrade RAM
> and
>> replace hard drive with SSD. You should be able to get at least 3 more
>> years out of that laptop.
>>
>> For new item in around $200 - you can look into HP Stream 11. It works
>> great with Linux and it is sturdy with good battery life. However it
>> doesn't have enough storage to run both Linux and windows, and it is not
>> upgradable. The only way to add storage is to use SD card or USB stick.
>>
>> For $200 and decent hardware, you will have to make significant
> compromises
>> unless you give up Windows or Linux.
>>
>> Tomas
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2017 10:34 AM, "Chuck Hast" <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have dualbooted the X200 with both Linux and Win7 pro. Worked quite well
>> but I prefer to load it up with RAM and run windows in a VM, works better
> in
>> my view.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 4 Sep 2017, Dave Lien - W7DAL wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does the ThinkPad X200 dual-boot Linux OK for you?  Dave.
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>>      I've no idea as I run only linux on it; haven't done M$ in 20 years
>>> now. A
>>> web search might find the answer for you.
>>>
>>>      If you'll allow a suggestion, replace the existing hard drive with a
>>> large
>>> Samsung SSD, install linux and use qemu to build a virtual machine. Then
>>> you
>>> can install Windows in that. Benefits include: faster and better Windows
>>> performance with greatly reduced risk of crashes, booting only a single
> OS
>>> (no dual boot issues), and now having faster, larger disk storage.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rich
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>> --
>>
>> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
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>> Ph 4:13 KJV
>> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
>> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
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