No they won't since like most things there is still a need - it's just a need by professionals who know what the hell they are doing.
So yeah, the El-Crapo BackUPSes that look like a messed up power strip with micro-sized batteries and no management ports that keep The PC up long enough for the user to realize "oh crap there's a power failure I better click shutdown" will disappear. Those shouldn't have ever Been on the market in the first place because the plain fact is that PCs today with users sitting behind them are nothing more than glorified Internet terminals and have no need for fancy caching filesystems that trash when they lose power unexpectedly. But the professional quality UPSes that have large enough batteries to actually hold the equipment up for a reasonable amount of time for an orderly shutdown - like 30 minutes or so - to take place, yes THOSE will still be around. They will be more expensive of course - but the cheap UPSes were pointless anyway since the real total cost of a UPS isn't the equipment it's the batteries you buy for it over the years. Ted -----Original Message----- From: PLUG <plug-boun...@lists.pdxlinux.org> On Behalf Of Keith Lofstrom Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2023 12:15 AM To: Russell Senior <russ...@pdxlinux.org> Cc: plug@lists.pdxlinux.org Subject: Re: [PLUG] UPS shopping - attention suspend? On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 02:36:00AM -0800, Russell Senior wrote: ... UPS ... > Does anyone have recent experience, either positive or negative, > and/or any advice on replacements. I'd consider a used older model. Since computation equals dodopaddle (er "smart phone") for most of My Fellow Americans, I suspect desktops with UPS support will eventually become hard to find. ---- I bought my most recent UPS from a Craigslist seller ... and replaced the batteries with SLAs from Interstate All Battery Center. A Craigslist purchase trip is a chance to visit neighborhoods I haven't seen before. One of my long term goals is to play with a Tesla Powerwall. I hope the batteries in those are better tended and last longer than the batteries in a UPS. Perhaps they will all fail after Musk absconds to Mars with our warranty money. ---- A nearer term goal is to replace all the hard drives in the house with Samsung terabyte SSDs. My test machines suspend to SSD in less than two seconds, and reboot in ten. I can imagine a multicore CPU and a Linux kernel that continuously copies checkpoint RAM images to SSD, so that after power resumes, the machine "comes back" to a state resembling what I was working on when the lights went out. In a well-designed suspend environment, I can "suspend my thoughts" until the power comes back - and I am reminded by my computer of what I was doing before the power glitch. I would like a similar reminder process for other interrupts - doorbell, phone calls, potty breaks, and commands from She Who Must Be Obeyed. Indeed, I would like Linux tools that facilitate "timeouts" for exercise, meditation, ordering my desk, whatever keeps me at maximum productivity and happiness. "Human interrupt and resume" is just another neglected aspect of larger processes that are only partly addressed by a UPS. Keith -- Keith Lofstrom kei...@keithl.com