On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 13:10, Elky Grrrr... wrote: > > bla bla bla bla open source is better blablabla....
isn't it? the nice thing about OSS(Open Source Software) is that it gives the user power to innovate...with access to the source code, developers are given the freedom to customize it for their own needs... don't you love this? isn't this reason enough to claim that OSS is better? >how come microsoft always has the top of the line software, > they have the best browser, the best office suite, and hmmmm oh a good media player >that actually works!!! > in linux i had to bang my head first before making it work! and it doesnt even work >as good as windows!! hmmm...may tabbed-browsing(Mozilla) na ba yung IE and may print to PDF na ba(Konqueror)? hehe...just curious...i still don't think IE's the best browser...Have you ever heard of Apache, MySQL? Anyway, i'm just glad i don't have to reboot everytime a windows application crashes...hehe...sumasara na nga lang pala ng bigla sa win2k yung app mo pag nag-crash...hehe...too bad when this occurs while you're working on something very impt. > ...and also, how come there are "linux ports"... when a program for windows matures >into a very very good version, there are "linux ports"... you know why there aren't "windows ports"? developers doing stuff for Linux are hampered by the mere fact that Windows is closed-source which increases the time exhausted when porting a Linux app...i believe apache was ported to the Windows platform... how come there arent any "windows ports" does this mean that MS and and closed source is the way to go, in the sense of innovation??? i dont see something like that in the open source community, they always seem to port windows progs to linux. there's no innovation there.... dont get me wrong i love linux! i was just wondering...... "there's no innovation there" - huh? diba "innovation" yung continuous development ng Linux per se? > i also hate hearing M$ sucks!!!! fuck winblows!!! cmon, we are not activists >here...there is no "cause"!! we are just ordinary people trying to get by. :-) if you love Linux, I guess you're missing the point. Linux is a revolution. Linux is a community. Linux is a religion. Linux is an art. these are the things we love about Linux...the constant sharing of ideas, code, rants, etc. Linux is not about software to put down Windows, Unix, or any OS whatsoever! so stop the bitching about windows please...Bill Gates is a great geek, he started his company from scratch thru his "cleverness" and wits. but hey behind every great fortune is a crime. i think as a businessman Bill Gates is one of the best!! i dont care what the others think! hmmm....no comment ako dito...just wish you're using a licensed Windows OS... by the way, people who love Linux also hate pirated software! > fooler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- > From: "optimus" > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 8:38 PM > Subject: [plug] World Peer-Review Challenge > > > > Yes indeed. Some of MS's programmers may be better, but open source > > programmers are the very best there is. > > this is too debatable... > > there are lots of open source programmers who wrote bad code... reading > their codes, you can easily identify if it is good or bad code... > > > I am likely to believe that given the openness and intellectual challenge > of > > programming in Linux, the best coders are Linux coders. These coders > > gravitate to Linux because of the open-source nature. > > i wont buy it... open-source is not the reason to be the best coder... the > best coders are those who understand the art of programming... > > > With Linux, they have an open "toy" they can continuously assemble, > > reassemble, and improve. True learning comes from doing, and one cannot > learn > > much using the closed, undocumented Win32 API and the absence of source > code. > > on the higher sense... you have to watch out those programmers who are just > looking at the closed source output and made their own replicate program > without relying on the source code... these programmers are more > intelligent, sharp minded and have initiative of learning... > > > Open source programmers are the best there is, for they have proven their > > technical skills with the best programmers from around the world. > > again, there are lots of open source programmers who wrote bad codes... > > > Microsoft's programmers have to prove their technical skills only to their > > chief software architects and to Bill Gates, which only affords extremely > > limited peer review. Microsoft's coders are not programming gods. MS > coders > > cannot dare pit their skills against thousands of open source programmers > who > > pool their collective talents together to solve computing problems. > > you dont really understand what is being a programmer on a business company. > ... microsoft's coders are not claiming they are programming gods... > > > Open source programmers, on the other hand, get scrutinized by thousands > of > > top-notch programmers through their work. Imagine designing a program and > the > > whole world judges your work. You have to ensure that your code is the > best > > there is, or suffer embarrasment and ridicule from other > technically-capable > > ones who can point out flaws in your work. The challenge of producing code > > that will stand the world's scrutiny is far tremendous. > > why, isnt true also with closed-source program? closed-source program are > scrutinize by their users... they fix it without relying with external you > so called "technically-capable ones" people... > > > If indeed you are very clever, and the program you designed is indeed > > innovative, the rest of the world will agree with you and validate your > > skills. > > of course... > > > > What's even better is that the world helps you improve your work by > honestly > > citing your flaws and recommends ways to better it. > > now can you even considered that open source programmers are best coders? > > fooler. > > _ > Philippine Linux Users Group. 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