can we invite this guy to join the linux vs. microsoft debate planned this upcoming EB?
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 03:28, Kelsey Hartigan Go wrote: > > > Heres more... > -----Original Message----- > Fr > From: Javier, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:33 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [PH-TechHeads] Open Source and Vulnerability > > > Hi Johnny. > > Good timing on this inquiry. I just had a very animated conversation with > my regional IS director about the future of Linux. There is a good article > about this in Newsweek, I can share a copy if you like. Firstly, Open > Source is the IS security auditor's worst nightmare. > > Anyway, as much as Open Source is about the potential batlle between Linux > and Microsoft/Sun -- and Linux utilizing the Open Source mantra to the > fullest. It will all be driven by "economics". For the Linux purists, > they are embracing the Open Source doctrine and doing it for free. For the > "blue suit" companies -- Intel, IBM, Dell -- it is their chance to have > more business leverage in dealing with Microsoft/Oracle and thrashing Sun. > For the "silent majority" underground programmers, it is their chance to > conduct some sort of a guerilla warfare against the big three -- Microsoft, > Oracle, and Sun. > > I also share your issues/concerns about security and putting some level of > control -- without neglecting the fact that Open Source is "free" and offer > much flexibility. There will be no silver bullet solution into this ..... > it will be a cocktail of solutions to address varying concerns/issues. I > guess the first question you have to ask is, "What systems are mission > critical to your core business?" By knowing this, you will be able to plan > your approach and determine if you are willing to embrace Open Source or > apply computing environment standards/controls. Mission critical systems > must still be secured, controlled, and exclusive. > > Personally, Linux/Open Source will give me short-term benefits but I will > not put my future (or the future of the business) into something that is > very vulnerable. Linux/Open Source will always be the "Wild West" of > business computing and it will stay that way. That's why, I think > Linux/Open Source will rule the Inernet world but will struggle in > providing core business solutions. > > If your core business is about providing services to the rest of the world, > then you have to seriously consider the Linux/Open Source strategy. > However, you still have to consider building a secured and controlled > community. In the case of AstraZeneca, our future is always about > discovering new drugs and introducing them to the market the shortest > possible time. Our R&D infrastructure is like Alcatraz located in the > North Pole. Introducing Open Source to them is like walking to a > competitor and giving them the chemical composition of our key products. > > Linux is the latest craze since Netscape and Dot Coms ..... but the two > biggest industry movers -- Microsoft and Intel -- will find a way to deal > with this challenge. > > The above is my take on this issue. > > > Cheers! > Jae > > > > -----Original Message----- > Fr > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:14 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PH-TechHeads] Open Source and Vulnerability > > > > I would like to solicit comments and feedback on a hypothesis that I'm > looking into. > > Open Source computing increases security vulnerability due to the way the > community actually understands limitations and flaws of the system. As > such, vulnerability exploits have a greater probability of happening. At > the same time, due to the "underground" nature of open source > contributions, we are unable to police its ranks -- plenty of opportunities > for lurkers with bad intentions to come in. > > This is similar to the current Microsoft situation but in a slightly > different manner. Microsoft's vulnerability is its popularility. As such, > there are more people who are trained to actually use and develop products > on their platforms. Thus, you have an army of hackers and crackers just > waiting on the sidelines to push the envelope. > > What's the difference though in protection strategies? For Open Source, we > are dependent on the Open Source community at large to try and police or > create defensive products to help block off attacks. Unfortunately, this > is not a concerted effort due to the non-remuneration model of Open Source. > > In Microsoft and other branded Unix environments, there is a whole slew of > companies whose primary purpose is to create products to defend against > attacks. > > Open Source has become popular due to the "free" nature of the beast. It > will catch on further as companies begin to understand how to further > exploit it. But, its popularity will also mean its downfall unless we come > up with adequate means of protecting the platform. > > As a CIO, I'm hesitant in plunging head on into a full Linux strategy for > industrial-strength and enterprise-class applications and deployment. Cost > benefits aside, I'm worried about support issues and vulnerabilities. Yet, > I cannot ignore what's happening and need to formulate a strategy for > possible Linux acceptance. > > Given this scenario, I would appreciate any comments, suggestions and > thoughts on what you feel about the above. Am I right, did I miss > something or is there a silver bullet out there that can help us make > better decision on this. > > Many thanks. > > Regards, > > > Johnny C. Sy > VP - Information Technology > ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corporation/ > The Communications Group > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service < > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > < > http://rd.yahoo.com/M=243066.2784921.4151384.1927555/D=egroupweb/S=17059095 > 61:HM/A=1377502/R=0/*http://www.verisign.com/cgi-bin/go.cgi?a=b315501132060 > 04000> > < > http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=243066.2784921.4151384.1927555/D=egroupmai > l/S=:HM/A=1377502/rand=346737386> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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