On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 10:02:17AM +0800, william villanueva wrote:
> Should one worry much about this if its an internal network?  I was in

Yes.  As many other people have mentioned throughout this thread, a
distressingly large number of compromises are made by insiders.  Not
only that, get used to doing things one way on what you think is a safe
network, you might find yourself carrying over your dangerous habits
into a not-quite-so-safe environment later on.

I stand by my contention that the only good Telnet or FTP are Kerberized
versions of the same.

> St. Luke's late last night and I was checking out their online billing
> system.  Seems that it has quit its program and was toying with it.
> They are using Reflection to connect to their main server via telnet.
> 
> I think MWSS is also using Reflection to connect to their server to
> access the accounts.

These are not the only places.  Our company has some clients (whom I
will not name) who flat insisted, even in the face of our vigorous
protests to the contrary, to allow telnet, FTP, RSH, and all these other
old, dangerous protocols on the new RHAS2.1 boxes we installed for them.
The boss tells me, hey, it's their funeral.  A script kiddie that
somehow gets into their network will have a field day, or more
plausibly, they've made an internal saboteur's job that much easier.

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