On 5/27/2004 1:02 PM, Paolo Alexis Falcone wrote:

On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 12:32 +0800, Paolo Alexis Falcone wrote:

On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 11:57 +0800, Eric Noel wrote:

Can anyone share configuration/setup procedures for implementing debian as a pix/firewall replacement for production? or has anybody secured debian to be their production firewall in protecting their financial data centric network (e.g banks, stock traders, etc)? Is it recommended, or we should just use pix/fw1 for that.

I've done that in QC City Hall, but it wasn't really a PIX replacement - the debian firewall I made there was replaced by PIX of a Cisco 6509 :D

That time I implemented the debian machine as a firewall, there was no
Cisco 6509 there at City Hall :D

If you've got PIX already - use it. If not, then going for a PC firewall
does save some budget. Pros and Cons:

PC Router/Firewall:
Pros: dirt cheap, easy to implement, easy to extend functionality
Cons: moving parts, constant patching

Appliance Router/Firewall:
Pros: Less moving parts, easy to implement, less patching
Cons: TONS MORE EXPENSIVE :D, not easy to extend functionality

The ideas that you translate in PIX are also applicable in configuring
PC routers - it's just that you'd need to translate them into
ipchains/iptables for Linux, or ipfw/pf for the BSDs.


On the other hand, the CISCO products (those ranging in the millions
range) have some cool functionality in them built-in like a Java-based
monitoring system, web based thingies, IPSec, damn LOTS OF PORTS for
ethernet and fibre channel :D. For a PC-based system, you can install
almost-equivalent software or hack your own to customize it, but the
number of ports are constrained by the limitations of the PC
architecture.

It ultimately boils down to what your needs are.


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Thanks for the replies. im more concerned on the security aspect, ive done 3 nic firewall using shorewall for one company but its not a financial company. Currently, i have someone who wants to implement a comapny wide firewall using debian. My only concern if its really secure to use debian (specifically bf24 and a few binaries e.g shorewall) to protect the company. ive read somewhere of using selinux implementation, bastille, etc to really secure a distribution, but is this necessary wouldnt debian hold off intrusions etc?
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