It's amazing to think that to build Windows itself, MS resorts to an open source tool (Perl), aside from being command-line oriented.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 12:42:53 -0500 Subject: Re: visual c++ equivalent To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 04:54:49PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > And if you are interested even Microsoft themselves don't use visual. The > whole > tool chain for windows is command line (I think it is proprietary though). I worked there. They use the Microsoft C++ compiler, a whole bunch of perl scripts, and a fork of a commercial command-line source control program (I've forgotten the company) that they develop separately called Source Depot. Mostly they are doing kernel-level debugging so they use KDB. They use a fork of the Visual Studio editor with basically just DevEnv.exe and the graphical debugging support, and use that sometimes. They definitely don't use Visual C++ projects. Last time I knew about it they were using something called the "Combo Platter", with the Visual Studio 7.1 DevEnv.exe and the Whidbey compilers. But, you're right, they definitely don't build Windows using the tools the way they tell you to use them. It's all very much closer to the Unix way of doing things -- all command line driven. It's considered stupid if you have to run a setup.exe to install a developer tool. All the build scripts and whatever you just xcopy them and set up things in the path. -- Paolo Alexis Falcone [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Official Website: http://plug.linux.org.ph Searchable Archives: http://marc.free.net.ph . To leave, go to http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/plug . Are you a Linux newbie? To join the newbie list, go to http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/ph-linux-newbie
