Who the heck is this?  Does everyone else see a message from this
domain's MTA whenever you send a message to the PLUG list?  Can some
admin manually unsubscribe the user with this domain, because whoever
it is isn't receiving any mail from the list anyway, and does nothing
but annoy those of us who post to the list.

(and when this gets posted by the mailing list their MTA will send yet
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On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 06:31:18PM +0800, Peter Santiago wrote:
> I still don't think we're able to handle some big-time outsourcing of 
> Linux jobs.  I doubt DTI would have data regarding this.  You can 
> probably ask Q-Linux though.
> 

This is what our company is doing at the moment.  It isn't easy,
especially as we're understaffed and are having trouble hiring new
people...

> 4.  On the corporate side, moving to opensource is considered risky.  In 
> short, there is no one vendor to pin the blame on if anything goes 
> wrong.  ^_^

Right, but for the wrong reasons.  It is not so much that there is no
one vendor to blame.  I have been personally involved in several large
enterprise GNU/Linux deployments and the support issues are handled by
taking a well-known enterprise distribution like Red Hat or SuSE,
enterprise hardware certified for these distributions and the
applications required, and hiring a team of engineers to do maintenance
and other support issues (that's our company).  It seems to work well
enough, and I believe this is how such things are handled elsewhere as
well.

The bigger issue has to do with migration, training, and so forth.  Some
companies already use some form of proprietary Unix like Solaris or AIX,
and from there it is only a short step to administering GNU/Linux.  This
was the case, without exception, for all of the companies where we have
deployed enterprise GNU/Linux systems.  For such companies GNU/Linux is
not such a ridiculously hard sell.  As far as they're concerned, it's
just another Unix flavor that comes with a much lower price tag.
However, I imagine there are many more companies out there that have
never seen or used any form of Unix whatsoever, and the cost of having
to train their people to administer and manage a totally alien OS and to
migrate existing applications to the same alien OS is a daunting
prospect.

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