Experiencing the same.. kala ko ako lang e.. tinanung
ko na dito yan..
Pero wala p sumagot..

--- eric draven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 20:21:59 +0800, Rafael 'Dido'
> Sevilla
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Who the heck is this?  Does everyone else see a
> message from this
> > domain's MTA whenever you send a message to the
> PLUG list?  Can some
> > admin manually unsubscribe the user with this
> domain, because whoever
> > it is isn't receiving any mail from the list
> anyway, and does nothing
> > but annoy those of us who post to the list.
> >
> 
> same here. it's pretty annoying.............
>  
> > (and when this gets posted by the mailing list
> their MTA will send yet
> > another message to me...)
> > 
> > --
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> majorities are as tyrannical
> > and cruel as unlimited despots.
> > http://stormwyrm.blogspot.com/
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> > 
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> > Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 07:57:09 +0100
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> > Date   : Fri, 4 Mar 2005 13:58:24 +0800
> > Subject: Re: [plug] Linux trends in the
> Philippines
> > 
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> > From: Rafael 'Dido' Sevilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Philippine Linux Users Group Mailing List
> <[email protected]>
> > Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 13:58:24 +0800
> > Subject: Re: [plug] Linux trends in the
> Philippines
> > On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 06:31:18PM +0800, Peter
> Santiago wrote:
> > > I still don't think we're able to handle some
> big-time outsourcing of
> > > Linux jobs.  I doubt DTI would have data
> regarding this.  You can
> > > probably ask Q-Linux though.
> > >
> > 
> > This is what our company is doing at the moment. 
> It isn't easy,
> > especially as we're understaffed and are having
> trouble hiring new
> > people...
> > 
> > > 4.  On the corporate side, moving to opensource
> is considered risky.  In
> > > short, there is no one vendor to pin the blame
> on if anything goes
> > > wrong.  ^_^
> > 
> > Right, but for the wrong reasons.  It is not so
> much that there is no
> > one vendor to blame.  I have been personally
> involved in several large
> > enterprise GNU/Linux deployments and the support
> issues are handled by
> > taking a well-known enterprise distribution like
> Red Hat or SuSE,
> > enterprise hardware certified for these
> distributions and the
> > applications required, and hiring a team of
> engineers to do maintenance
> > and other support issues (that's our company).  It
> seems to work well
> > enough, and I believe this is how such things are
> handled elsewhere as
> > well.
> > 
> > The bigger issue has to do with migration,
> training, and so forth.  Some
> > companies already use some form of proprietary
> Unix like Solaris or AIX,
> > and from there it is only a short step to
> administering GNU/Linux.  This
> > was the case, without exception, for all of the
> companies where we have
> > deployed enterprise GNU/Linux systems.  For such
> companies GNU/Linux is
> > not such a ridiculously hard sell.  As far as
> they're concerned, it's
> > just another Unix flavor that comes with a much
> lower price tag.
> > However, I imagine there are many more companies
> out there that have
> > never seen or used any form of Unix whatsoever,
> and the cost of having
> > to train their people to administer and manage a
> totally alien OS and to
> > migrate existing applications to the same alien OS
> is a daunting
> > prospect.
> > 
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> Date   : Fri, 4 Mar 2005 20:15:07 +0800
> Subject: Re: [ph-linux-newbie] cd writer...
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> From: eric draven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Philippine Linux Newbies Mailing List
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> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 20:15:07 +0800
> Subject: Re: [ph-linux-newbie] cd writer...
> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:55:17 -0800 (PST), Levy Dano
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 1. Make sure that the kernel recognizes your
> CDW.
> > > Check 'dmesg' if its there. 'lsmod' to make sure
> > > it has loaded the driver.
> >
> > Ya, it has been in the dmesg but in lsmod I have
> only
> > found 'cd-rom' not 'cd-scsi'.
> >
> hi,
> 
> for my setup, my cdrive is config'd at /dev/cdrom,
> and it burns using
> the command below. check this out:
> 
> cdrecord -data -v speed=12 dev=/dev/cdrom myporn.iso
> 
> > > Have not used FC1, maybe kernel drivers are
> > > built-in.
> > > Else, you see 'cd-scsi'[..] driver in lsmod.
> > > Maybe FC1 had already integrated all the hw
> during
> > > FC setup? So all you need to do is to launch a
> > > gui burning app, and adjust preferences?
> > > Any GUI hardware setup in FC?
> > >
> > > applications
> > > GUI: k3b, xcdroast, [etc..]
> > > CLI: cdrecord, ..
> > >
> > > If FC came with 'cdrecord' package then you can
> > > check your hw:
> > > [shell] cdrecord -scanbus
> > > ...
> > > Else go back to step 1
> > >
> > > To burn in cli xsample:
> > > Ready your files, place in a dir, make it an iso
> > > 'mkisofs',
> > > then,
> > > [shell] man cdrecord
> > > [shell] cdrecord -v -eject speed=4 dev=/dev/hdd
> > > your.iso
> > >
> > >
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