Thanks Ben On Thu, May 10, 2018, 3:18 PM Ben Koenig <techkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since KDE version 4 they have split the desktop environment into a few > chunks. > > They have the KDE SC, Software Compilation which is the applications > that ship with the DE. Basically all the things that windows has by > default - a calculator, basic web browser, Kwrite (instead of notepate) > etc. This 'SC' is cross platform and can even be installed on Windows, > essentially replacing apps like Notepad, IE and even Minesweeper with > the kde versions ;) > > > In this new design, Plasma is the desktop. On Linux, if you run KDE you > will also be running Plasma. But you could theoretically be using a > different desktop ( or different OS entirely ) and still run the apps > that are part of KDE SC. > > > So 'KDE' is an umbrella project for both Plasma, and the Software > Compilation.The KDE project has even gone the the next step and built an > official "KDE Distro" called KDE Neon. > > > So Here is Neon, a version of Ubuntu.... with the Plasma desktop.... > running the KDE Software Compilation. Took me a while to wrap my head > around this change. > > https://neon.kde.org/ > > > > On 05/10/2018 02:45 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote: > > I use KDE for decades at this point, together with Gnome and other xDEs > du > > jour. I have never noticed this Plasma monicker. > > > > Is Plasma Compiz equivalent for KDE? > > > > Thanks, T > > > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2018, 4:45 AM elcaseti <elcas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Jason, That is useful info. I will be trying Kubuntu 18.04 to see if > it's > >> up to the task of replacing Mint KDE for myself, friends, & family. > Mint > >> has abandoned KDE Plasma, unfortunately. > >> > >> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Jason Barnett < > jason.barnet...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I can vouch for Kubuntu 18.04 (upgraded from 17.10, Xorg) that the > >> included > >>> VLC 3.0.1 does NOT have any issues with the screensaver. > >>> Not sure if this information is of any use to you, but now you know. > >>> > >>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:37 PM Tomas Kuchta < > >> tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> While I might not know what is Compiz, I certainly can recognize > >> familiar > >>>> smell of major trouble coming - when I hear about upgrading U-buntu > for > >>> the > >>>> last 12 releases AND not practicing regular clean installs. > >>>> > >>>> Just a word of caution, > >>>> T > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018, 6:38 PM John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Thu, 10 May 2018 00:20:13 +0000 > >>>>> Tim Garton <garton....@gmail.com> dijo: > >>>>> > >>>>>> What did you dist upgrade from? If it was Ubuntu 17.10 you are > >>> probably > >>>>>> running Wayland, which is most likely the problem. They reverted > >> back > >>>>>> to Xorg with 18.04, but if you upgraded from 17.10 it may have > >> carried > >>>>>> Wayland as the default from that. Wayland breaks many things, not > >> the > >>>>>> least of which is the screensaver API. > >>>>> What you said is possible. > >>>>> > >>>>> I have three computers: > >>>>> 1. desktop built 2 mos ago, started with Xubuntu 17.10 and just > >>>>> upgraded to 18.04. > >>>>> 2. Lenovo T61 laptop, had 12.04 when it was retired; recently > >>>>> revived and dist-upgraded to 14.04 > 16.04 > 18.04 > >>>>> 3. System76 laptop, still running Xubuntu 14.04.5. Has VLC 2.2.5 > >>>>> which inhibits the screensaver as it should. > >>>>> > >>>>> Both 1 and 2 have VLC 3.0.1 (from the dist-upgrades), which fails to > >>>>> inhibit the screensaver. > >>>>> > >>>>> I wonder what pieces of Wayland are still on 1 and 2, and what kind > >> of > >>>>> exorcism is needed to get rid of them. > >>>>> > >>>>> While VLC 3.0.1 is the current version in the 18.04 repositories, > >>>>> version 3.0.2 has been released. I've looked everywhere for a > >>> change-log > >>>>> to see if it addresses this issue, but can't find one. > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> PLUG mailing list > >>>>> PLUG@pdxlinux.org > >>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> PLUG mailing list > >>>> PLUG@pdxlinux.org > >>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> PLUG mailing list > >>> PLUG@pdxlinux.org > >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> PLUG mailing list > >> PLUG@pdxlinux.org > >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > _______________________________________________ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
