-------- Original Message --------
On May 26, 2021, 12:09 AM, wes < [email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 4:12 PM wes <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 3:36 PM Tom <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 24 May 2021 15:45:06 -0700
>> "Jason Barbier" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > you are part right, the modification of the message body would cause
>> > DKIM failures if you authorized the plug mail servers to send as your
>> > domain. Due to the way most mail list software works DKIM will never
>> > pass. for list messages
>>
>> Why is it do you think that I don't have any such problem on the
>> FreeBSD, Gentoo, NetworkUPStools, Prosody, Tails and Gemini mailing
>> lists? Do they have their setup a certain way?
>>
>>
> we could ask that same question the other direction: why is it that most
> subscribers who use DKIM don't have their emails marked as spam by gmail?
>
> -wes
>
I went through and compared headers from a bunch of different senders to
the list. they all list DKIM as failed, but only yours (Tom's) get marked
as spam routinely. I started looking up source IPs on mxtoolbox.com, and
nuegia's (23.92.27.105) is listed, while others aren't. this might be a
reason for the difference. unfortunately this particular blacklist is not
one we can just request removal from, it's at the ISP level.
-wes

That matches what gmail is saying about the messages. The TLS handshake 
succeeds, but a message is added from google claiming "google could not verify 
that it actually came from nuegia.net"

When I click "learn more" it sends me to a generic help page.

Tom, can you send another reply to this thread? I wanna see how protonmail 
handles it.

Ben
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