The issue with Gmail is they are now mandating 2FA even on IMAP access so you 
have to have a phone and I think maybe a smartphone.  They also have this 
online 2Fa thingie that if you "join" your windows box into their service that 
might work.

If you are able to access a brand new Gmail account vi IMAP from a pure Linux 
system that is NOT running Thunderbird, OR is running an OLD version of Tbird, 
then tell us how you do it if you CAN do it (T-bird has added in Google's 2Fa 
stuff it's not pure IMAP/POP3 authentication anymore)

OAuth2 doesn't just require "some changes" it requires fundamental changes such 
as scrapping out a lot of email clients like Eudora that worked perfectly.

Explain it's just "some changes" to my mother who was mightily pissed off when 
that happened

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: PLUG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2023 7:39 AM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Looking for a paid POP/IMAP email provider


I would suggest a (paid) gmail account. You can access it using IMAP:

     https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78892?hl=en

It's inexpensive (I think I pay $6 a month). No ads, built-in spam and virus, 
awesome webmail intereface (if you ever need it), lots of storage.

FYI: Microsoft and Google are phasing out Basic Authentication (username + 
password) for Modern Authentication (OAuth2). That might require some changes 
on your end.

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