Finally words from me on this on this interesting but off topic thread. Placebo, If the Md's with their science come back to me and ask how this happened. You weren't suppose to get better. Then I say hurray! If this happened once then I say possibly. If it happened twice then I say interesting. If this has been happening for 30 years, which in my case it has. Then throw the word placebo out the window.
Case in point. 1) 30 + years ago I injured my back playing soccer. No minor injury, but one that was suppose to cause me to have pain and limited mobility for the rest of my life. Something that the doctors did not want to operate on but were more then willing to put me on a life time of pain killers for. Also, playing soccer was out of the question. My parents took me to a chiropractor. 2 months later I was in little to no pain. 6 months later I was playing soccer again. I loved the surprised look on the doctors faces. 2) 20 years ago I had sever allergies to the point that I was placed on steroids, several, and told I would never be off them. 6 months later I was completely off them, thanks to some Chinese medical practices. The doctor kept wanting to run more and more test, but could not explain what had happened. 3) 4 years ago, Frozen shoulder. Doctors recommended surgery as my only option, or to live with about 35% mobility in my shoulder. I checked with several doctors, Md's and others, about my options. I chose acupuncture. 1 treatment and I had over 50% mobility. On the next treatment I got back 90+ percent of the shoulder mobility. The progress slowed from there. This is only 3 instances of many where I have been benefited by, what some would consider, non-conventional medicine. If I had followed the science of Md's I would be in a wheel chair by now, probably breathing through an oxygen hose. I could not have lived in the pain that I was in as a teenager. I could not have breathed without help from the asthma that I had, going up a flight of stairs required me to rest every 4 steps or so to catch my breath usually with an inhaler. I could go on. There are Doctors still confused today. Now this is just me. Should I go on about some friends of mine, one of whom the Md's about killed. Who now, thanks to again non-traditional medicine, is alive and doing well. Not cured but much better and most importantly not dead. Md's have their place. Break a bone or have a life threatening emergency. That's where I go first. When they get stumped, present me with few options, or when I think there might be a better option I go else where. God placed more then Md's on this earth, and I thank him every day for that. I do not rule Md's out for my health concerns. I just consider them one of my many options. I interview Md's Chiropractors, Acupuncturist, and other as I would anyone else that I would have work for me. These professionals are my employees. They work for me. If I am not happy with them they get fired. My health is my concern and I have great option. Sorry for the long final word on this, but I am passionate about this as you can see. I have good reason to be. Brad __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */