On 26 May 2011, at 14:52, Jacob Albretsen wrote:

> On Thursday 26 May 2011, Jason Van Patten wrote:
>>> It is indeed true that the sun moves around the Earth, even today.
>>> It's just that when you consider solar and planetary motion from an
>>> Earth-centric frame of reference, it's much more difficult to model
>>> and predict the paths of bodies, and it doesn't reflect the actual
>>> forces that constrain the paths.  It would also be easy to choose a
>>> frame of reference in which neither the Earth nor Sun were stationary,
>>> such as using the moon as the static point.  This frame of reference
>>> is less useful from the perspective of trying to model the motion, but
>>> it would be a useful frame of reference to translate the paths into in
>>> order to aim solar collectors or antennas on a future moon base.
>>> 
>>> Motion is all relative, and choosing the frame of reference from which
>>> to analyze things is one of the first steps in any physics problem.
>>> The frame of reference might change depending on what kind of analysis
>>> you're trying to do!
>> 
>> However it is theoretically possible to establish a context from the
>> center of existence if you assume that such a point exists.
> 
> And every time we've made that assumption, it's been wrong wrong wrong.
> 

While we are contemplating deep questions... do you think it is possible to use 
regressive hypnosis to "remember" what your experience was like in the womb?

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