On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Levi Pearson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Jacob Albretsen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thursday 26 May 2011, Levi Pearson wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Jason Van Patten <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> > However it is theoretically possible to establish a context from the
>>> > center of existence if you assume that such a point exists.
>>>
>>> You might think so, but by calculating the doppler shift in the light
>>> coming from stars in any direction from the Earth, we know that they
>>> are all red-shifted roughly the same amount.
>>
>> No, this is not true.
>>
>> The further away astronomers look into space (time), the more red-shifted
>> objects appear to be.  However, in the local area, you can have objects which
>> appear blue-shifted (example:  Andromeda Galaxy).  This is because in the
>> local area, Doppler shifts of light due to relative motion are dominate over
>> the cosmological redshift due to the expansion of the universe.  However once
>> you get much further away, there is a larger cosmological redshift and 
>> Doppler
>> shifts of light due to relative motion are negligible.
>
> Thanks for the clarification.  I think my overall point was still
> correct, though: there's no "center point" to the universe that
> everything moves away from.  The entirety of space once *was* the
> center point, and the universe itself is expanding.  I realize the
> universe is probably also not a spherical geometry, that was just an
> illustration of the idea of an expanding geometry rather than a
> conventional explosion.  When one gets far enough into physics, any
> discussion in lay English about it becomes hopelessly vague and
> inaccurate, unfortunately.  As the Doctor says, "It's not like that at
> all, but if it helps...."
>
>        --Levi
>
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I love how this thread is still titled "Re: [OT] Social Network Privacy"-Joh

Not complaining, mind you.  I just think it's funny that somehow
shifted from privacy to this.

-John

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