I've been reading these posts and am glad that the truth is coming out about our government. It gives me hope.
I have to ask if the Tea Party was right and once they get into government they try to correct the gov, what is wrong with that? Are you saying we still need some level of evasiveness, over taxing, redistribution of wealth, the nanny state mentality? Simply the Tea Party is about smaller gov, less intrusive gov, less taxes, God given freedom, the rule of law (U.S.Constitution), and being self-reliant. The Bible says if you do not work you do not eat. 2 Thessalonians 3:10New International Version (NIV) 10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.” This is willful laziness not someone falling on hard times. In the case of a hardworking person who find them self down on their luck, it is the community that is supposed to help, not the government. How did America become so great when we had a much smaller Gov? Now that we have a huge Gov we are having great difficulty at every level. The only ones who benefit from all this is the lawyers. ------------------------ Keith Smith --- On Mon, 6/10/13, Michael Torrie <torr...@gmail.com> wrote: From: Michael Torrie <torr...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Did Ed Snowden do the right thing? To: plug@plug.org Date: Monday, June 10, 2013, 7:58 AM On 06/10/2013 12:44 AM, Ryan Simpkins wrote: > Did Mr. Snowden do the right thing by disclosing PRISM and similar programs to > the world, or did he violate the trust of his employer, government, and fellow > countrymen by reveling secrets that aught not to have been reveled? Yes he did the right thing, and he very well could be an American hero. However he absolutely did violate the trust of his employer and government. And he will have to face the consequences of those actions, and hopefully through those consequences we'll be lulled out of complacency and act to change things. If he thinks otherwise, then he hasn't quite thought things through. People forget sometimes throughout history courageous men and women have done the right thing, even when it meant civil disobedience, but were willing to go to prison for their beliefs. Rosa Parks, for example, knew full well she'd be prosecuted for riding on that bus, and even that she'd be incarcerated, but she hoped her actions and her treatment, trial, and incarceration would be a spark for change, and it was. This week has been one of cognitive dissonance for me as I've come to realize that the Tea Party is probably right about their view of government, though at the same time as they got elected they became part of the problem. And my relatives forwarding supposed prophecies about the constitution hanging by a thread (because the wrong lizard got elected) were actually right, though no opposing vote will change this situation. This is a very good but sad take on the situation: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/united-states/130607/what-if-journalists-covered-us-like-they-cover-world /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */ /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
