Hosting wise there are a lot of companies that are neutral and not overtly "conservative", but they tend to be the ones that google hides a bit more in their algorithms. ISP wise, I'm not familiar with who's who in the area beyond those I use or refuse to use.

Payment processing wise (one of my wheelhouses since I previously owned a couple payment processing gateways), there are a lot of moving pieces involved. There are gateways, processing networks (the backbone behind the gateway that connects banks and gateways via the federal clearinghouse thingies that transfer funds between financial entities), the credit card companies themselves, CCMA underwriters (banks that approve your ability to have a CC merchant account to process funds), and other banking entities. Anyone of those can throw a kink into your ability to process payment online. Stripe, PayPal, Chase (JP Morgan Chase - the big CCMA issuer last time I looked), and even Visa have been actively involved in strikes/closures against sites they dislike for political or personal opinions, regardless of the actual risk categories they fall into even if a legit/legal product not listed in their disapproved business/product types (high risk categories).

All the smaller gateways I have worked with for past 20 years have been acquired (all these were UT startups): AuthorizeNet is now owned by Visa, ProPay is owned by big corp but not sure on neutrality, and iTransact is now owned by Payroc (I still use them but I don't have anything that might raise any red flags with them but I suspect neutral at this point).

The 2A option Joel listed previously looks interesting but they don't list any dev info for their APIs (but most gateways list this), nor list the underwriting banks they are partnered with that are usually indicated when dealing with CCMA accounts. So I can't comment on the risk or vulnerability that one would have using their services. But it looks like they require you to use their CCMA (probably how they pay for the use of their services).

The biggest thing I can recommend on payment processing is to diversify instead of putting all yer eggs in one basket. Someone can do a lot of damage to you if you have only one option. Have a CCMA processor/gateway (2AP, iTransact, etc), crypto, mailed checks, and have something like Stripe/PayPal (until you don't - Stripe better than PP but sometimes not by much).

I just remembered one that came online the past couple of months. It would be similar to 2AP, but less political stance info listed. Dan Bongino (ex Secret service agent, and radio/podcast host now) is behind it. https://alignpay.com . It also requires you to use their preferred CCMA issuer. No info listed on their APIs last time I looked at the website.

Hope that helps on the processing side. Good luck the processing side is a bit tough right now.

Mister Ed



On 9/21/21 2:16 PM, Joel Finlinson wrote:
Is this something like what you're looking for?

https://klicked.com/

https://smartwayhosting.com/

and

https://www.secondamendmentprocessing.com/



On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:20 PM AJ ONeal @ Home <[email protected]> wrote:

Does anyone know of online Payment Processors (or other ISPs) like
XMission?
https://xmission.com/privacy-pledge

I'm going to relaunch an encrypted relay service - which will unfortunately
also attract some bad actors, as well as people with unpopular opinions -
and I don't want one customer's actions to cause the whole thing to come
crashing down.

I'm looking for a processor that adheres to due process rather than Twitter
groupthink.

AJ ONeal

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