volpone wrote: > Hi philippe_44, > > Sorry because it is a little "off topic", but i appreciate your work and > expertise in linking SqueezeBox ecosystem to UpNp renderers devices > witch are sadly the only "high end" alternative to Squeeze audio > devices. > > > > > - What do you think about Roon from Roonlabs emerging solution, see > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104044-Roon-a-SqueezeBox-ecosystem-alternative - And also what about Roonlabs UPnP criticism, see > https://community.roonlabs.com/t/whats-wrong-with-upnp/2101/5 > > > > > Regards > Volpone
I don't know Roon well enough, but I'll look at it out of curiosity. About UPnP flaws, I agree this is very painful to deal with. I think there are 2 reasons. - It tries to do everything and to accommodate all the different industry vendors. As a result, this is the "camel = a race horse designed by a committee" problem. - There is no really good interoperability certification/validation so basically it is a jungle of non-interworkable devices (servers, control point, renderers). Working myself is systems that rely heavily on standards, I know how important to make the specifications simple (don't offer 3 methods to do the same thing just to please vendors), avoid ambiguity as much as possible and because there are always ambiguities, then organize a very strong validation/certification system. The amount of renderer variations I had to deal with for my simple application is simply amazing ... I could also add that I think UPnP misses at least one very important feature for me: audio synchronization (UPnP 2.0 does but nobody seems to adopt it) About the thread, I read it quickly. Some statements wrt UPnP pain points are correct I think, but there was a long discussion that showed misunderstanding of what are network transport, sampling and clock rates and how they are (not) related, so I stopped a bit at that point as it is difficult to follow an argument where some of the initial hypothesis are wrong. I am personally, to be honest, satisfied with what I have from ex-Logitech. I'm a tinkerer, so I do my own PCB, 3D prints and software, so with squeezelite and RaspberryPi, it is easy to transform any other device/speaker into a LMS system, fully integrated, even if (unfortunately) Logitech does not develop any more hardware. It was a difficult learning curve, but I now know squeezelite very well so I can fix it if needed. What I'm still frustrated with is not being successful to synchronize my Sonos with squeezeboxes, but I'm still working on it, it will just be a lot of work ;-) If I can make that work, then that would give me all I want in term of tinkering possibilities and pre-made good looking devices (as you can guess, I'm not an audiophile high end guy). LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102496 _______________________________________________ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
