No, my reason for the -1 is that "IBM has contracted with a group at
the University of Jena in Germany to help create the reference
implementation of JSR-286 to be hosted at Apache. ", as cdoremus put
it. This means that the code result is a work for hire, and thus would
need to go through corporate CLA, vetting, etc. in the incubator.

OTOH, given the secrecy which has involved the whole JSR process (a
committer of the portals project was the chair, but we actually got
the first notice through the JCP website, etc.) I'm afraid we will be
again in a world of obscure changes, which go straight against the
Apache Community spirit, and is the kind of things that have been
slowly killing this project in the last couple of years, from the
community point of view.

Now, if the components of such team have the whole communications on
pluto-dev, and they send patches (except for Ulrich, which is a
committer) that get integrated until they earn committership, the
process would not need to pass through the incubator.

This is not an opinion, I think this is hard policy in the ASF. Apache
is about communities, not about code.

I (this is an opinion) don't care a dime about Reference
Implementations unless they are used and tested. This is the case now
with pluto 1.0, but it was not the case when it got donated.

I am afraid that we are facing a code dump that will take a lot of
time to clean up. Those are my concerns.

Regards
Santiago

On 8/25/06, Ralph Goers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Santiago Gala wrote:
> I'm -1 about the branch.
>
Is your reason for the -1 because you feel that the JSR 286 work should
happen on trunk (assuming it was Pluto committers doing the work)?
Wouldn't you need to create a branch for 1.1 before you could start that?

Ralph

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