From: "Glen Stampoultzis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > We are still using the wrappers ;-) > > > > The fact is that they use commons logging underneath. > > I think that simply giving a -Dpoi.logging=enable check system would > remove > > the problem. > > Probably, but I wonder whether we really need the dependency at all. I've > personally never even used the logging and I've never seen a user turn it on > to provide more information. > > Typically I just system.out.println while debugging code then remove it when > I'm done. > > I'm leaning towards Andy's preference of defaulting to noop then > system.out.printlning when a property set.
When I debug, I use the graphical chainsaw to see the logs. It's quite cool IMHO. If we default to noop when a property is set, we don't even need commons logging, since only our factory and logger know of it's existence, so it can safely be removed. Deal? -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>