Shall we compare Sermons? And, by the way...
When her Church started going places she didn't believe in, she stopped going there, and moved to another Church in 2002. Obama didn't quit his Church until people started actually SEEING the things that were Preached there. Again, would you like to compare the two and how they reacted when they didn't agree? That is a comparison I will gladly make. On Sep 8, 6:42 am, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "No, believe it or not, even fundamentalist Christians don’t have to > believe every little thing > their pastor believes." > > Wow, has anyone told the Obama-haters this? > > On Sep 8, 9:21 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/separating-palin-fact-from-palin-fiction/ > > > Whether it’s really a Chinese curse or not, you can’t say we don’t > > live in interesting times. > > > Two weeks ago, I was reporting from the Democratic National > > Convention; the Obama bounce looked solid, and on Thursday night, > > following the Mile High Annunciation, things were looking pretty grim > > for the Grumpy Old Man and the GOP. Of course, by Friday morning, > > things were looking rather different — Sarah Palin was announced as > > the vice presidential choice, political junkies were seeing their > > chiropractors about their whiplash injuries, and suddenly a new fresh > > face was in a free-fire zone. > > > Now, make no mistake, I like Sarah Palin a lot; in many ways she’s > > closer to my politics than anyone I’ve seen in a long while. I voted > > for her in the PJM Veepstakes, multiple times. That was all based on > > what I’d read, at Beldar’s blog and others, and a little bit I’d heard > > from my relatives in Alaska. Of course, most people know that what > > immediately followed the Palin announcement was a prodigious swarm of > > new rumors; it seemed that, failing any useful opposition research, > > people were just making things up about Palin. After I had received > > thirty or so of them from left-leaning friends, I got a little tired > > of it, and wrote an email with a bullet list of some of the things I’d > > read, true, false, and simply ludicrous. I sent this to a private > > mailing list of some friends, and then it occurred to me to create a > > post on the Palin rumors. > > > And, as Bart said, “The rest was history.” > > > So this is the complete list of Palin Rumors, at least as it stands > > about midnight Mountain Time on September 7, 2008. (The link will > > take you back to the complete and current list on my blog > > Explorations.) I make a point of the time because the list has been > > growing by around seven rumors a day; there’s at least one in my queue > > that I haven’t been able to completely track down yet. > > > Warning: some parts of this are jokes. On purpose. > > > Sarah Palin Rumors > > > 1. Yes, she is governor of Alaska. No, she’s not the lieutenant > > governor. No, she’s not currently mayor of Wasilla. Yes, she was mayor > > of Wasilla, some years ago. > > 2. Yes, as governor of Alaska, she’s the commander in chief of the > > Alaska National Guard. And yes, her professional military subordinate > > is quite impressed with her in that role. > > And yes, the New York Times says the job of governor of Alaska is one > > of the harder, and more powerful, jobs in state government. > > 3. Yes, there are people in Alaska who think she’s too liberal. > > 4. Yes, she did giggle when someone called Lyda Green a “bitch.” Yes, > > Lyda Green is a cancer survivor. Yes, it was the same Lyda Green who > > tried to force a scheduling conflict that would make Palin miss her > > son’s high school graduation. Yes, this would also be the Lyda Green > > who complained no one had asked her about Palin during the vetting > > process. > > 5. Yes, she did push for and approve the Wasilla Sports Center. Yes, > > it did cost a lot of money. (People keep saying $20 million, that > > article says $14.5 million, but then they also added a $1.2 million > > dollar food service/kitchen piece. This year, after Palin was out of > > office as mayor.) Yes, the city went into debt to do it (how did you > > buy your house, bunkie?) and raised the city sales tax from 2 percent > > to 2.5 percent to pay for it. 6. Yes, the city is paying it off early. > > Yes, there is an ongoing dispute about title (following a struggle > > with the Nature Conservancy and another buyer. And yes, at the time it > > was built, Wasilla had a Federal judge’s decision that they had title > > to the land. > > 7. Yes, she did want authority to have wolves culled from the air, > > because they were taking too many moose and caribou. Which people hunt > > for food in the back country in Alaska. No, she isn’t shooting them > > herself. I mean, not that she couldn’t, but I’m sure she doesn’t have > > time. > > No, the Downs baby (Trig) isn’t Bristol’s kid, and no, the kid wasn’t > > born with Downs because (a) Palin flew on an airplane (b) went home to > > have the baby after an amniotic leak (c) because he was the result of > > incest between Todd Palin and Bristol. > > No, Track (the kid who is leaving for Iraq) didn’t join the NG because > > he was a drug addict. He may have joined the NG because he was tired > > of people saying his Mom was getting him into the good hockey leagues. > > (Yes, that one was original reporting. I’ve got sources in Wasilla.) > > No, Willow and Piper aren’t named for witches on TV. Among other > > things, Willow was born before Buffy came on TV, and Piper was born > > before Charmed. > > Yes, Trig’s name may be misspelled. Isn’t it usually “Tryg” as in > > “Trygve”? In any case, I doubt he’s named for the secretary general of > > the UN (1948-1952), either. But at least that was before he was born, > > unlike the others. (Thanks to Chris, via his blog.) > > Yes, it appears that she has a Big Dipper tattooed on her ankle. She > > lost a bet. > > No, she’s never been in any porn as far as anyone can find (and God > > knows I get enough Google hits on those very topics.) I would think > > the Big Dipper tattoo would be a giveaway. > > No, no one seems to be able to even find swimsuit pictures of her from > > her beauty queen days; God knows I looked. The bikini pictures that > > are around are photoshopped, just like the Vogue cover I have up. > > No she wasn’t a member of the (wild-eyed libertarian) Alaska > > Independence Party, although her husband once was. > > No, neither the (Canadian) National Post, nor Marc Armbinder at the > > Atlantic have troubled themselves to issue a correction. Yes, the New > > York Times did finally correct their story of September 1 — on > > September 5. And on page 14. This was after Elizabeth Bumiller was > > quoted by Howard Kurtz as saying she was “completely confident about > > the story.” Yes, that was after the New York Times’s source retracted > > the story. Yes, this should embarrass the Times, Bumiller, and Howard > > Kurtz. No, there have been no signs of embarrassment. > > No, she was never a Pat Buchanan supporter; even when Buchanan claims > > she was, she was on the board of Steve Forbes’s campaign in Alaska. > > Yes, Palin was a Steve Forbes supporter in 2000. > > No, she’s not anti-semitic. In fact, she has an Israeli flag in her > > office. (Contrary to popular belief, the usual Evangelical thinks > > Israel has a right to exist, granted by God.) > > No, I don’t think she’s being “indoctrinated by Lieberman and AIPAC as > > we speak”; I don’t get the feeling that being indoctrinated is > > something that Palin does well. > > Yes, it seems unlikely that she’s going to be in hiding for the next > > two weeks, seeing as she’s been in rallies twice in the last two days. > > Or at least it’s going to be real rough, given that she has three > > media interviews scheduled today (September 6) alone. > > Yes, it does appear that Palin’s local pastor preached about an end > > time when God will judge everyone, even Wasilla, Alaska, and the > > United States. Duh. This is called the Book of Revelations, and while > > I don’t believe it personally, I don’t see it as a disqualifier for > > the hundred million or so Baptists, Methodists, Evangelicals, > > Episcopalians, Catholics, Assembly of God, Presbyterian, Lutherans > > (traditional and Missouri Synod), African Methodist, and so on > > Christians in the United States. > > Yes, I do sometimes wonder about the state of Andrew’s health. > > No, she’s doesn’t believe that the Iraq War was directed by God. Yes, > > she did pray that proceeding with the war was God’s will: “they should > > pray ‘that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is > > from God, that’s what we have to make sure we are praying for, that > > there is a plan, and that plan is God’s plan.’” (Ever hear the phrase > > “Not my will, but Thine, be done”?) Yes, this apparently freaks some > > people right out. > > No, Buchanan doesn’t support her now; in fact he’s supporting Obama. > > (Buchanan did think her speech was amazing, but then so do 80 percent > > of the people who saw it.) Or maybe not. Buchanan sure doesn’t like > > McCain though. > > Yes, she was apparently pregnant when she got married > > No, so far there’s no confirmation she had an affair while she was > > married, and they’ve denied it pretty strongly. No, she wouldn’t be > > the first Christian woman who got a little on the side, if it were > > true. > > No, she wasn’t named as a co-respondent in a divorce; there’s no > > evidence she had an affair with her husband’s business partner. The > > partner tried to have his divorce records sealed because he was being > > harrassed by journalists who used them to get his phone number. > > Yes, barring immaculate conception virgin birth (whatever), Bristol > > appears to have had sex with her fiancee. No, Bristol didn’t receive > > only “abstinence-only” sex ed. [The biggest item of controversy in > > this whole process has been, of all things, details of Christian > > doctrine and sectarian differences.] > > Yes, I have it on reliable report that Sarah Levi’s mom has been heard > > screaming “Way to go Levi!” at her future son-in-law son. No, it > > doesn’t appear to have been when Bristol broke the news to her family. > > Note: I originally understood this story to be about Sarah, not Levi’s > > mom, in the context of hockey games. As such, > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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