Doc: I dont know where you get the idea that i am a super supporter of israel. I am not. If the jews want a homeland in the middle of arabia that is their problem not mine. it is somewhat akin to having the KKK stake out a homeland in the middle of the congo.
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Doc Holliday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > This is America not Israel. You're are the same dual citizenry neocon > mentality that of and Anti-American unpatriotic prick! ZIONISTS GO > HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fight your own fucking wars. Your kind have stolen > enough technology and we given you plenty through the neocon > infiltrators so-called good will. > > excerpt George Washington's farewell address 1796 > > "Observe good faith and justice towards all nations; cultivate peace > and harmony with all. Religion and morality enjoin this conduct; and > can it be, that good policy does not equally enjoin it 7 It will be > worthy of a free, enlightened, and at no distant period, a great > nation, to give to mankind the magnanimous and too novel example of a > people always guided by an exalted justice and benevolence. Who can > doubt that, in the course of time and things, the fruits of such a > plan would richly repay any temporary advantages which might be lost > by a steady adherence to it ? Can it be that Providence has not > connected the permanent felicity of a nation with its virtue ? The > experiment, at least, is recommended by every sentiment which ennobles > human nature. Alas! is it rendered impossible by its vices? > > In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that > permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and > passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in > place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be > cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual > hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave > to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to > lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation > against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, > to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and > intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. > Hence, frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests. > The nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to > war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The > government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and > adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times it > makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility > instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious > motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, > has been the victim. > > So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another > produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, > facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases > where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the > enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the > quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or > justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of > privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation > making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to > have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a > disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges > are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded > citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to > betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, > sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a > virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public > opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish > compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation. > > As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments > are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent > patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic > factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public > opinion, to influence or awe the public councils 7 Such an attachment > of a small or weak towards a great and powerful nation dooms the > former to be the satellite of the latter. > > Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to > believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be > constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign > influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. > But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the > instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense > against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive > dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on > one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on > the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite > are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes > usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their > interests. > > The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in > extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little > political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed > engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let > us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; > or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent > controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our > concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate > ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her > politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her > friendships or enmities. > > Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a > different course. If we remain one people under an efficient > government. the period is not far off when we may defy material injury > from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will > cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be > scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the > impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard > the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our > interest, guided by justice, shall counsel. > > Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own > to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with > that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the > toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice? > > It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any > portion of the foreign world; so far, I mean, as we are now at liberty > to do it; for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing > infidelity to existing engagements. I hold the maxim no less > applicable to public than to private affairs, that honesty is always > the best policy. I repeat it, therefore, let those engagements be > observed in their genuine sense. But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary > and would be unwise to extend them. > > Taking care always to keep ourselves by suitable establishments on a > respectable defensive posture, we may safely trust to temporary > alliances for extraordinary emergencies. > > Harmony, liberal intercourse with all nations, are recommended by > policy, humanity, and interest. But even our commercial policy should > hold an equal and impartial hand; neither seeking nor granting > exclusive favors or preferences; consulting the natural course of > things; diffusing and diversifying by gentle means the streams of > commerce, but forcing nothing; establishing (with powers so disposed, > in order to give trade a stable course, to define the rights of our > merchants, and to enable the government to support them) conventional > rules of intercourse, the best that present circumstances and mutual > opinion will permit, but temporary, and liable to be from time to time > abandoned or varied, as experience and circumstances shall dictate; > constantly keeping in view that it is folly in one nation to look for > disinterested favors from another; that it must pay with a portion of > its independence for whatever it may accept under that character; > that, by such acceptance, it may place itself in the condition of > having given equivalents for nominal favors, and yet of being > reproached with ingratitude for not giving more. There can be no > greater error than to expect or calculate upon real favors from nation > to nation. It is an illusion, which experience must cure, which a just > pride ought to discard. > > In offering to you, my countrymen, these counsels of an old and > affectionate friend, I dare not hope they will make the strong and > lasting impression I could wish; that they will control the usual > current of the passions, or prevent our nation from running the course > which has hitherto marked the destiny of nations. But, if I may even > flatter myself that they may be productive of some partial benefit, > some occasional good; that they may now and then recur to moderate the > fury of party spirit, to warn against the mischiefs of foreign > intrigue, to guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism; > this hope will be a full recompense for the solicitude for your > welfare, by which they have been dictated. <end > > > > Peace, > Doc > > On Sep 22, 5:51 am, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: *Travis* > > Date: 2008/9/19 > > Subject: America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It. MUST READ! > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Mark Steyn's book, that is excellently reviewed below by Paul Eidelberg, > is > > a quick read and very important. > > > > The McCain/Palin ticket is America's only choice unless we want the third > > millenia to be dominated by Islam, an even darker age than the dark > ages. > > > > A vote for Obama is a vote toward the phenomena that Bat Ye'Or calls * > > Eurabia.* "Amerabia" would be an unmitigated disaster for the entire > > world. We cannot afford the reduction in America's security that will > come > > when Obama eliminates missile defense spending and reduces spending on > > intelligence and the military. > > > > The "War on Terror" simply cannot become a "criminal investigation;" our > > enemies would make that devastatingly clear. > > > > - Linda from San Diego > > > > *Mark Steyn, "America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It" * > > > > Reviewed by Paul Eidelberg > > > > Internationally renowned journalist Mark Steyn is famous for his abrasive > > yet delightful wit. One wonders, however, how a book subtitled *The End > of > > the World as We Know It* can make delightful reading. Perhaps because > > Steyn's wit conveys "politically incorrect" truths obscured by timid and > > shallow pundits. > > > > Like Oriana Fallaci, Steyn not only exposes Islamic imperialism, but also > > the moral confusion or cowardice of western elites--think of George Bush > and > > Barack Obama--who cuddle up to Islam or obscure its bellicose and hateful > > nature. Steyn quotes Bernard Lewis, the dean of Islamic scholars: > > > > "In 1940, we knew who we were, we knew who the enemy was, we knew the > > dangers and the issues.... It is different today. We don't know who we > are. > > We don't know the issues, and we still do not understand the nature of > the > > enemy." > > > > *America Alone* is an urgently needed wake up call. Steyn warns America > > about what is happening to its NATO allies: (1) An aging and declining > > European population has necessitated the importation of foreign workers, > > primarily Muslim Arabs from North Africa. (2) Since these Muslims refuse > to > > integrate, they constitute a hostile and prolific population that > threatens > > to inundate the Continent. (3) Europe is committing cultural > > self-destruction not only because of its permissive immigration policies, > > but also because of the multiculturalism and moral relativism that > permeate > > the mentality of Europe's ruling elites--its post-Christian policy-makers > and > > judges on the one hand, and post-modern academics and journalists on the > > other. > > > > What makes America even more alone is that its allies disdain the country > > that saved them twice from tyranny. > > > > America needs to understand, however, that its economic and political > > survival depends very much on Europe, and Europe, Steyn warns, is > > approaching the abyss as a result of its moral decline and low birthrate. > > Unless this trend is reversed--and this will require heroic > efforts--Europe > > will be semi-Islamic within a generation. > > > > Steyn has made an extensive survey of European demography. For a nation > to > > maintain a stable population--no growth and no decline--it needs a > fertility > > rate of 2.1 live births per woman. Whereas America has a 2.1 fertility > > rate, Europe, as whole*,* has a rate of only 1.38. Spain, with a 1.1 > > fertility rate, is halving every generation. > > > > In the major urban centers of France, of those aged 20 and under, about > 45 > > percent are Muslim. France is self-destructing. So is Russia, the > world's > > largest country. With a 1.14 fertility rate, there may be only 50 million > > Russians at the end of the century. Large chunks of Russia will slide > into > > the Islamic orbit. As Steyn puts it, Europe is "going out of business." > > > > Steyn also emphasizes that Europe's social democracies, with their > > cradle-to-grave welfare programs, are going bankrupt. The welfare state, > by > > assuming all the responsibilities of adulthood--health care, child care, > care > > of the elderly--has effectively severed its citizens from humanity's > primal > > instincts, including self-preservation. As Europe gets older and more > > childless, it has to import more foreign workers. This can only end in > > Europe's economic collapse. > > > > Europe's Muslim population is not very productive, since a large > percentage > > of Muslims prefers to proliferate and live of welfare rather than work. > To > > make matters worse, Muslims predominate in European prisons despite > > permissive judicial systems. > > > > Meanwhile, mosques and madrassas, thanks largely to Saudi money, are > > flourishing. The cultural identity of European nations is evaporating. > > > > Although Muslims in general reject the customs and laws of their host > > country, their votes are eagerly sought by European politicians. > Moreover, > > government officials, whether obtuse or afflicted with multiculturalism, > > magnify Muslim power by failing to enforce monogamy laws. Since Muslims > can > > have four wives, their birthrate is seven times that of Europeans. Some > > demographers say Europe will be dominated by Muslims in 20 years. Steyn > > does not exaggerate when he says Europe is committing cultural suicide. > > > > Imagine French literature and culture: gone. German literature and > culture: > > gone. Russian literature and culture: gone. In the home of humanism, > > humanism is dying. > > > > Steyn offers a shocking example of this decadence. In 2006, Spain's > ruling > > Socialist Party introduced a bill in parliament legislating that apes be > > included in "the category of persons, and that they be given the moral > and > > legal protection that currently are only enjoyed by human beings." The > > party's argument was that humans in Spain share about 98 percent of their > > genes with chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans. No wonder Spain's > > fertility rate is only 1.1. > > > > But how did the Spanish socialists gain power? Well, on March 11, 2004, > > three days before the Spanish elections, a series of terrorist train > > bombings in Madrid killed more than 250 people. On election day, the > voters > > tossed out the government that had been supporting the U.S. in Iraq and > > handed it over to the Socialists. It was this new leftwing government > that > > introduced the bill to endow apes with the moral and legal rights of > human > > beings (*perhaps the result of the left's unqualified struggle for human > > rights detached from obligations*.) > > > > Notice, however, that it was Muslim terrorists that brought this leftwing > > government to power. > > To illustrate the fact that Europe's burgeoning Muslim population does > not > > integrate, Steyn points out that the most popular baby boy's name in much > of > > Europe is Muhammad. (The Saudis are willing to pay *any* man $1,000 to > > change his name to Muhammad.) Steyn boldly adds that if you are muslim, > > "you can lie, cheat, steal, rape, and kill women and children, as long as > > you are doing it for Allah and his victory over infidels." Islam thus > > provides would-be criminals with a license to steal and kill. (The > present > > writer wonders:* how many felons become Muslims to cover their evil > motives > > and thereby minimize if not avoid punishment?*) > > > > What about England? Alas, the teaching of moral relativism during the > past > > few decades has enfeebled and corrupted English society. In fact, > relativism > > has metamorphosed into moral reversal: witness the anti-Israel reportage > of > > the BBC, where the Jewish victims of Arab terror appear as the > villains*.* > > > > England's judicial system has also been tainted. The courts mollycoddle > > Arab criminals and terrorists as "victims" of so-called "oppressive" > > majorities. London has become a breeding ground for global jihad, thanks > to > > the permissiveness of the courts. > > > > And so America's NATO allies are fading away. In the UN General Assembly > in > > 2003, the members of the European Union voted against the U.S. position > 54.5 > > percent of the time. Finland's prime minister said in 2002 that "the > > European Union must not take up arms at any occasion in order to defend > its > > own interests." America is indeed alone. > > > > Perhaps this is why Steyn repeatedly refers to 9/11 as if it were > > exclusively an American concern. Few people grasp the full significance > of > > that fateful day. 9/11 was the greatest morale-booster of Islam in 1,000 > > years. 9/11 restored the confidence of the Muslim world--a world burning > > with envious hatred of the West. 9/11 showed ambitious Muslims that the > > "Great Satan," despite its military superiority, is vulnerable and can be > > conquered. By restoring the pride of Muslims everywhere, 9/11 heightened > > Islam's ambition to conquer the world. It has already emasculated > Europe. > > > > To stop Islam's forward march, Steyn offers various proposals, including > the > > following (to which I add parenthetic comments): > > > > ● Support women's rights--real rights, not feminism--in the Muslim world. > > (Encourage the production of films to dramatize the plight of Muslim > women. > > This would also serve to enlighten Americans about Islamic barbarities > such > > as "honor killings.") > > ● "Roll back Wahhabi, Iranian, and other ideological exports that have > > radicalized Muslims on every continent." (I wonder, however, whether > > sectarian differences in the Islamic world have any > *strategic*significance.) > > ● Cut off the Saudi funding of mosques, madrassas, think tanks, and other > > Islamic organizations in America. (Islamic influence on American society > may > > also be exerted via retired, high-level American officials on the Saudi > > payroll. Legislation may be required to terminate this pernicious state > of > > affairs.) > > ● Marginalize the UN and ensure that Islamic states that persecute > > non-Muslims are denied international legitimacy. (To this end, the U.S. > > should demand the expulsion from the UN of any state that violates the UN > > Charter and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.) > > ●Terminate the Iranian regime. (Needed is a "shock-and-awe" attack on > > Iran's nuclear facilities.) > > > > But now I must say that something is missing in Steyn's *America Alone*, > > namely, *Israel*. Yet Israel may contain the key to humbling Islam. > > > > Scholars have noted the overweening arrogance of Muslim Arabs. > Washington > > should therefore: > > > > ● Call upon Israel to devastate the entire Arab terrorist network west of > > the Jordan River, including the Fatah- and Hamas-led Palestinian > > Authority--now a proxy of Iran. > > ● Declare that any attack on Israel will be deemed an attack on the > United > > States. > > ● Move the American embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and urge Israel to > > exercise its rightful authority over the Temple Mount. This is the > > ideological key to terminating Islamic imperialism. > > > > *Of course, the U.S. may lack the will or leadership to roll back Islamic > > imperialism. Steyn is not optimistic. All the more reason to urge > > Americans, especially their decision-makers, to read America Alone and > heed > > its proposals, lest America succumb to the fate hovering over Europe. * > > ** > > *HAVE YOU READ IT YET? 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