what facts all i see is more propaganda and distortion of the truth to
protect plain and McCain . such as "   there is no record of any
individual in Wasilla ever being charged, or ever paying for their
rape kit, EVER! "
i guess you forgot it is against the law to release the ame of a rape
victim . and if they didn't spend the money as they claim on rape kits
where did palin spend the money ? are you saying she was a part of the
embeselment of government funds ?


On Sep 24, 9:17 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually...
>
> I believe he was pointing out that none of our Liberal friiends have
> cared to address any of the FACTS offered them on any of this.
>
> Imagine that.
>
> On Sep 24, 5:23 pm, "Keith In Tampa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 23, 4:41 pm, frankg wrote: Geez, not a single rebuttal. How
> > disappointing. Perhaps it's just a matter of waiting for the evening
> > shift...
>
> > =====
>
> > Well, I'll take a stab at it.  This once again, is an example of the likes
> > of our "non-partisan, unbiased, fair and balanced" mainstream media, bashing
> > Governor Palin with more untruthful, prevaricate misleading information, and
> > leave it up to Lil' Mikey and Political Amazon to give credence to it.
>
> > I have got a little more than half way into this, and will finish it
> > tomorrow night, but clearly, anyone with a shred of common sense, should be
> > able to see how unfair, untruthful and outright distorting our mainstream
> > media has become.  One has to ask themselves, "Why the lies?"
>
> > Here goes:
>
> > *1*. "*312:* the number of nights during her first 19 months in office that
> > Palin charged taxpayers a "per diem" totaling $16,951 for staying in her own
> > home -- an allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while
> > traveling on state business
> > "(Source<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/08/AR200...>
> > )
>
> > *Response:*  First, this little snippet is based on a Washington Post
> > article, and if you look at the Washington Post's article, captioned, "Palin
> > Billed State for Nights Spent at Home"  the headline is not at all
> > truthful.  Here is the actual vouchers submitted by Governor Palin, and
> > clearly, Governor Palin never charged the taxpayers of Alaska for staying in
> > her own home. Governor Palin wrote "Lodging - own home" to indicate why she
> > didn't charge a lodging per diem.  The forms demonstrate that there are no
> > charges listed under "lodging." :
>
> >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2008/09/09/GR200...
>
> > Of course, at the bottom of the article, the Washington Post did actually
> > report that Governor Palin has spent far less on her personal travel than
> > her predecessor: *e.g.;* $93,000 on airfare in 2007, compared with $463,000
> > spent the year before by Governor Frank Murkowski.   That Governor Palin
> >  actually flies coach and encourages her cabinet to fly coach as well.  That
> > the previous Governor's wife charged per diem expenses three times higher
> > than Governor Palin's family.
>
> > Just as important,  this little snippet fails to mention that Governor
> > Palin's per diem requests are legitimate,  and by no means did Palin take a
> > per diem unlawfully. The state of Alaska actually allowed Governor Palin to
> > claim a much more sweeping per diem that would have claimed expenses for
> > each child taken on official business, but Governor Palin refused.
>
> > =====
>
> > 2.   "*$500 to $1,200:* the fee that Wasilla charged rape victims to pay for
> > post-sexual assault medical exams, after the city cut funds during Palin's
> > tenure that had previously covered the exams"
> > (Source<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-alperinsheriff/sarah-palin-instit...>
> > )
>
> > *Response:*  Well, this one sounds just scandalously horrific!  The problem
> > is, that it is not at all truthful!  The truth is, that there is no record
> > of any individual in Wasilla ever being charged, or ever paying for their
> > rape kit, EVER!
>
> >http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/274003.php
>
> >http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/leftists-smear-palin-in...
>
> > =====
>
> > *3.*   " *$150:* the cash payment offered by the Palin administration to
> > hunters who turn in legs of freshly killed wolves gunned down from
> > airplanes" 
> > (Source<http://dwb.adn.com/news/alaska/wildlife/story/8726730p-8628810c.html>
> > )
>
> > *Response: * True.   Alaska Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G)  enhanced
> > efforts to reduce the predatory wolf populations over  five areas around the
> > state. Alaska's wolf-control program, now in its fourth consecutive year,
> > involves volunteer pilots and shooters who track and kill predators in the
> > winter months under special department permits. Removing wolves is one part
> > of ADF&G's efforts to restore and increase selected moose and caribou
> > populations which provide food for Alaskan families. This year's moose count
> > shows a continued drop in moose numbers - unprecedented in the years since
> > wolf/moose relationships have been under study there. Moose numbers are down
> > to under 400 (Which were over a 1,000 in 2002). Wolf numbers have also
> > dropped from 30 to 21.
>
> >http://www.adfg.state.ak.us/news/2007/3-21-07_nr.php
>
> >http://www.isleroyalewolf.org/wolfhome/home.html
>
> > ===========
>
> > *4.:   **"3* the number of times during her first few weeks as mayor that
> > Palin inquired with the Wasilla librarian about banning books"
> > (Source<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/13/AR200...>
> > )"
>
> > *5: *"the number of months after the censorship discussion that Palin fired
> > the librarian" 
> > (Source<http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-palin-book_bdsep07...>
> > )
>
> > *Response:*  I would think that at this juncture, everyone (with the
> > exception of Moonbats) knows that these allegations are misleading and
> > untruthful, and an outright biased attempt to besmirch Governor Palin's
> > reputation.
>
> >http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html
>
> >http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/media_cooking_the_books_on_pal...
>
> > =====
>
> > 6.   *100:* the approximate number of Wasilla residents who rallied to
> > support the librarian, prompting Palin to withdraw her termination letter (
> > Source <http://www.crosscut.com/politics-government/17341>)
>
> >  *Response:*  Again, there is no truth to this story.  As a matter of fact,
> > it turns out that Ann Kilkenny, the Democrat woman who first made the
> > allegation, was not even present at the meeting between Librarian Mary Ellen
> > Emmons and at the time, Mayor Palin.  Footnote: It turns out, that  Ann
> > Kilkenney is married to a man named Pat Johnson, who is a local politician
> > himself, sitting on that area's planning (platting) commission. Ms. Johnson,
> > (who doesn't go by that name)  is in the "*urban planning; don't expect to
> > buy your necessities in my community"* category, and it also turns out that
> > the Johnson's (Ms. Kilkenney) were supporters of the major oil leases that
> > Governor Palin ceased….As in "ceased the graft.  Associates of Ms.
> > Kilkenney's and her husband were purportedly involved in opposing the
> > Governor's tax on major oil, suggesting that Ms. Kilkenney either supported
> > those that were taking payoffs from major oil, or was directly involved
> > herself.  I would say that this in and of itself, is enough to discredit an
> > admitted partisan Democrat from besmirching Governor Palin's record, which
> > speaks for itself.
>
> >http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/media_cooking_the_books_on_pal...
>
> > ========
>
> > 7.    *0: *the number of foreign heads of state Palin has met
> > (Source<http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=5782924&page=1>
> > )
>
> > Uhm…..Actually, since Tuesday, September 23, 2008,  the number of Heads of
> > State that Governor Palin has met, equals the amount of Heads of State that
> > Senator Obama has met, and Governor Palin is running for the office of Vice
> > President:
>
> >http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ijGq94pVTj9FGiR-c5EdA3iSm2owD93CNPQG1
>
> > ============
>
> > 8.   "*0:* the number of commands Palin has issued as head of the Alaska
> > National Guard "(Source <http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515499.html>)
>
> > *Response:*  Not truthful.
>
> >http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/06/palin-inexperienced-not-really/
>
> >http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/p/palin-national-guard.htm
>
> > Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense
> > system.  The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is
> > the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks.
> > It's on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.
>
> > As governor of Alaska, Palin is briefed on highly classified military
> > issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism.
>
> > She's also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF),
> > a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security's
> > counterterrorism plans.
>
> > Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the
> > entire country's defense.  Given Alaska's proximity to Russia, she may have
> > security clearances we don't even know about.
>
> > According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but
> > nobody ever found out.  This is a woman used to keeping secrets.
>
> > She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is.
>
> >http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/p/palin-national-guard.htm
>
> > ==========
>
> > *10.    "0:* Wasilla's long-term debt when Palin took office in 1996" (
> > Source<http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/a-fiscal...>
> > )
>
> > *11.    "$18.6 million:* the long-term debt Palin racked up by the time she
> > left office in 2002, amounting to about $3,000 per resident"
> > (Source<http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12987.html>
> > )
>
> > *Response:*  An outright fabrication and fictitious.
>
> > In the early 1990s, and when Governor Palin became Mayor, Wasilla Alaska was
> > little more than half as big as it is today, and much more loosely
> > confederated.  There was no police department, there was no fire department
> > other than a volunteer fire department, there was no waste water treatment
> > plant, the infrastructure was equivalent to war torn  Iraq.  Mayor Palin did
> > in fact
>
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