I don't refuse to take part in government, I refuse to recognize that the two party system in the US constitutes a form of legitimate government. Over the last one hundred years our scientific achievements have been phenomenal, while our political and socio- economic understanding has stagnated.
On Sep 27, 5:52 pm, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "The punishment which the wise suffer who refuse to take part in the > government is to live under the government of worse men." Plato > > On Sep 27, 2:16 am, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The fact that Biden is a dirty reprobate doesn't make Palin any less > > of an ignorant backward philistine not fit to run a mother's club. She > > is a dangerous imbecile, a sociopath. > > > The argument of comparative lunacy is lunacy and exposes the filthy > > stinking corpse of US democracy. > > > On Sep 27, 6:12 am, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > With all the dumb shit that's been spewing from Biden's mouth you > > > actually have the chutzpah to criticize Palin? Ha.. that's funny. > > > > On Sep 26, 3:23 pm, PoliticalAmazon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > The LATimes print edition today had a brutally truthful article about > > > > Sarah Palin's complete ignorance of nearly everything besides what > > > > setting to put her tanning bed at. > > > > > What was "brutally truthful" was the fact that they printed what she > > > > said...and she is really, really stupid. It is quite apparent. > > > > > This Palin schpiel is breathtakingly stupid and bullshitting: > > > > > (BEGIN QUOTE) > > > > That's why I say I, like every American I'm speaking with, we're ill > > > > about this position that we have been put in . . ." Palin began, > > > > before meandering off in fruitless pursuit of coherence. > > > > > But I'll let the governor speak for herself: > > > > > " . . . where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, > > > > what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the > > > > healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy. Um, > > > > helping, oh -- it's got to be all about job creation too. Shoring up > > > > our economy, and putting it back on the right track. So healthcare > > > > reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany > > > > tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and trade, we've got to > > > > see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive, um, scary thing, but 1 > > > > in 5 jobs being created in the trade sector today. We've got to look > > > > at that as more opportunity. All of those things under the umbrella of > > > > job creation. This bailout is a part of that." > > > > (END OF QUOTE) > > > > > --------- > > > > > Here's the article in its entirety: > > > > > (BEGIN QUOTE) > > > > >http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-onthemedia26-... > > > > > From the Los Angeles Times > > > > ON THE MEDIA > > > > Palin talks to Couric -- and if she's lucky, few are listening > > > > The financial crisis has an upside for the Republican vice > > > > presidential candidate: It takes the spotlight away as she begins > > > > answering more pointed questions from the media. > > > > By JAMES RAINEY > > > > ON THE MEDIA > > > > > September 26, 2008 > > > > > A global financial crisis and a not-quite-suspended presidential > > > > campaign dominated newspaper front pages and television reports over > > > > the last couple of days. > > > > > Bad news for America. But good news for Sarah Palin. > > > > > The economic crisis and John McCain's surprising response have drawn > > > > attention away from the Republican vice presidential nominee just as > > > > she has started to answer more pointed questions from the media. > > > > > Her third nationally televised interview, with CBS anchor Katie > > > > Couric, found Palin rambling, marginally responsive and even more > > > > adrift than during her network debut with ABC’s Charles Gibson. > > > > > In a 40-minute session with Couric that aired Wednesday and Thursday > > > > nights, the Alaska governor defended her puzzling claim that > > > > geographic proximity makes her some sort of expert on Russia; went > > > > nearly blank when queried about McCain's achievements as a big- > > > > business regulator; agreed America "may find itself" on the road to > > > > another Great Depression; and, promoting a troop surge in Afghanistan, > > > > casually suggested that it "will lead us to victory there, as it has > > > > proven to have done in Iraq." > > > > > The last statement couldn't help but conjure an image from 2003 -- > > > > President Bush beaming in that green flight suit before the infamous > > > > "Mission Accomplished" banner. > > > > > Palin's unblinking certitude gave way at other times in the interview > > > > to a striking imprecision, as when she struggled to respond to > > > > Couric's suggestion that the $700-billion bailout might be better > > > > funneled through middle-class families instead of Wall Street firms. > > > > > "That's why I say I, like every American I'm speaking with, we're ill > > > > about this position that we have been put in . . ." Palin began, > > > > before meandering off in fruitless pursuit of coherence. > > > > > But I'll let the governor speak for herself: > > > > > " . . . where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, > > > > what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the > > > > healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy. Um, > > > > helping, oh -- it's got to be all about job creation too. Shoring up > > > > our economy, and putting it back on the right track. So healthcare > > > > reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany > > > > tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and trade, we've got to > > > > see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive, um, scary thing, but 1 > > > > in 5 jobs being created in the trade sector today. We've got to look > > > > at that as more opportunity. All of those things under the umbrella of > > > > job creation. This bailout is a part of that." > > > > > That mind-bender prompted Couric to muse, almost charitably, on "The > > > > Early Show" that Palin is "not always responsive when asked questions, > > > > and sometimes does slip back to her talking points." > > > > > It didn't go much better for Palin when she tried to clarify the > > > > mystery of what her state's proximity to Russia has taught her about > > > > that nation. Anyone south of the Arctic Circle would have seen this > > > > question coming and had a ready answer. But seemingly not the > > > > governor. > > > > > "We have trade missions back and forth," Palin told Couric. "We, we > > > > do, it's very important when you consider even national security > > > > issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the airspace > > > > of the United States of America, where, where do they go? It's Alaska. > > > > It's just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those > > > > out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful > > > > nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to, > > > > to our state." > > > > > Certainly, Russia's prime minister, Vladimir Putin, has demonstrated > > > > his willingness to invade its small neighbors. But have I missed news > > > > of recent provocations by Russian bombers over Kiwalik or Aleknagik? > > > > And if Palin has been intensely interested in her neighbor across the > > > > Bering Strait, that also has escaped the reporters who follow her most > > > > closely. > > > > > In fact, a veteran reporter from her home state, Hal Bernton, reported > > > > in the Seattle Times this month how Russian politicians had sought > > > > more contact with Palin, but in vain. The governor cut funding and her > > > > office's participation, it seems, in the Northern Forum, which > > > > promotes relations between regional governments in the Northern > > > > Hemisphere. > > > > > A Palin spokeswoman e-mailed that she would provide more detail about > > > > Palin's trade activities with the Russkies. No word by deadline. > > > > > But wait. Certainly the issue dominating the news would provide the > > > > governor with a respite from these maddening demands for, you know, > > > > facts. > > > > > With McCain now depicting himself as the doctor ready to deliver tough > > > > medicine to Wall Street, Couric asked Palin to explain what measures > > > > he had pushed in the past. > > > > > Palin raised McCain's support of revamped oversight for Fannie Mae and > > > > Freddie Mac, the two mortgage giants that are on life support. Fine. > > > > > But when the network anchor pressed for other examples, given that the > > > > Republican has been in Congress for nearly three decades, Palin came > > > > up blank. > > > > > "I'll try to find some" -- Palin smiled at Couric -- "and bring them > > > > to you." > > > > > Palin at least kept her answers shorter during a Q&A with reporters > > > > Thursday morning, her first such session since McCain unleashed her on > > > > the national scene four weeks ago. > > > > > Although she didn't really answer two of the four questions, many > > > > Americans won't hold that against her. They see someone who > > > > understands what it's like in a small town. > > > > > Common sense has its value, and commentaries like this one, suggesting > > > > Palin's shortcomings, will only confirm to her fans that she is not a > > > > pet of the media elite. But it seems only sensible to wonder whether > > > > charm and pluck will be enough the next time Putin rears his head. > > > > > (END OF QUOTE)- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
