Very interesting...

Instead of wanting to discuss the Role the Democratic Candidate for
President had in the Financial disaster we are experiencing, some
Liberal/Democrats around here seem to want to only discuss the
Interviewing abilities of the VP pick for the Republicans, as they
ignore the Interviewing abilities of the VP pick of the Democrats.

Imagine that.

Instead of discussing the most important Issue we face today, and the
different Roles the 2 Candidates have had in it, they want to
discuss...  twirling hair.



On Oct 1, 11:03 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmmmmm...
>
> Seems none of the Liberals/Democrats want to discuss Barack Obama's
> "Prime Time" Role in this Financial mess.
>
> Anyone wonder why?
>
> On Sep 30, 10:36 am, "d.b.baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Good work, Gaar.
>
> > Let's hope McCain forcefully addresses Obama's connection to ACORN.
>
> > On Sep 30, 1:16 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDZiMjkwMDczZWI5ODdjOWYxZTIzZGIy...
>
> > > Foundation Money
>
> > > Although it’s been noted in an important story by John Fund, and in a
> > > long Obama background piece in the New York Times, more attention
> > > needs to be paid to possible links between Obama and Acorn during the
> > > period of Obama’s service on the boards of two charitable foundations,
> > > the Woods Fund and the Joyce Foundation.
>
> > > According to the New York Times, Obama’s memberships on those
> > > foundation boards, “allowed him to help direct tens of millions of
> > > dollars in grants” to various liberal organizations, including Chicago
> > > Acorn, “whose endorsement Obama sought and won in his State Senate
> > > race.” As best as I can tell (and this needs to be checked out more
> > > fully), Acorn maintains both political and “non-partisan” arms. Obama
> > > not only sought and received the endorsement of Acorn’s political arm
> > > in his local campaigns, he recently accepted Acorn’s endorsement for
> > > the presidency, in pursuit of which he reminded Acorn officials of his
> > > long-standing ties to the group.
>
> > > Supposedly, Acorn’s political arm is segregated from its “non-
> > > partisan” registration and get-out-the-vote efforts, but after reading
> > > Foulkes’ case study, this non-partisanship is exceedingly difficult to
> > > discern. As I understand, it would be illegal for Obama to sit on a
> > > foundation board and direct money to an organization that openly
> > > served as his key get-out-the-vote volunteers on Election Day. I’m not
> > > saying Obama crossed a legal line here: Based on Foulkes’ account,
> > > Acorn’s get-out-the-vote drive most likely observed the technicalities
> > > of “non-partisanship.”
>
> > > Nevertheless, the possibilities suggested by a combined reading of the
> > > New York Times piece and the Foulkes article are disturbing. While
> > > keeping within the technicalities of the law, Obama may have been able
> > > to direct substantial foundation money to his organized political
> > > supporters. I offer no settled conclusion, but the matter certainly
> > > warrants further investigation and discussion. Obama is supposed to be
> > > the man who transcends partisanship. Has he instead used his post at
> > > an allegedly non-partisan foundation to direct money to a supposedly
> > > non-partisan group, in pursuit of what are in fact nakedly partisan
> > > and personal ends? I have no final answer, but the question needs to
> > > be pursued further.
>
> > > In fact, the broader set of practices by which activist groups pursue
> > > intensely partisan ends under the guise of non-partisanship merits
> > > further scrutiny. Consider the 2006 report by Jonathan Bechtle, “Voter
> > > Turnout or Voter Fraud?” which includes a discussion of the nexus
> > > between Project Vote and Acorn, a nexus where Obama himself once
> > > resided. According to Bechtle, “It’s clear that groups that claimed to
> > > be nonpartisan wanted a partisan outcome,” and reading Foulkes’s case
> > > study of Acorn’s role in Obama’s U.S. Senate campaign, one can’t help
> > > but agree.
>
> > > Radical Obama
> > > Important as these questions of funding and partisanship are, the
> > > larger point is that Obama’s ties to Acorn — arguably the most
> > > politically radical large-scale activist group in the country — are
> > > wide, deep, and longstanding. If Acorn is adept at creating a non-
> > > partisan, inside-game veneer for what is in fact an intensely radical,
> > > leftist, and politically partisan reality, so is Obama himself. This
> > > is hardly a coincidence: Obama helped train Acorn’s leaders in how to
> > > play this game. For the most part, Obama seems to have favored the
> > > political-insider strategy, yet it’s clear that he knew how to play
> > > the in-your-face “direct action” game as well. And surely during his
> > > many years of close association with Acorn, Obama had to know what the
> > > group was all about.
>
> > > The shame of it is that when the L. A. Times returned to Obama’s
> > > stomping grounds, it found the park he’d helped renovate reclaimed by
> > > drug dealers and thugs. The community organizer strategy may generate
> > > feel-good moments and best-selling books, but I suspect a Wal-Mart as
> > > the seed-bed of a larger shopping complex would have done far more to
> > > save the neighborhood where Obama worked to organize in the
> > > “progressive” fashion. Unfortunately, Obama’s Acorn cronies have
> > > blocked that solution.
>
> > > In any case, if you’re looking for the piece of the puzzle that
> > > confirms and explains Obama’s network of radical ties, gather your
> > > Acorns this spring. Or next winter, you may just be left watching the
> > > “President from Acorn” at his feast.
>
> > > — Stanley Kurtz is a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy
> > > Center and an NRO contributing editor.- Hide quoted text -
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