Again, pretty funny coming from one of the biggest whiners here...

On Oct 1, 3:55 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gaar,
>
> Really? Show me where I try to blame GB and the Republicans for
> EVERYTHING.
>
> You should like a little kid whining "But MAAAAW, you let little Timmy
> do EVERYTHING and I never get to do ANYTHING, WAAAAAA!"
>
> On Oct 1, 3:51 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > That's pretty funny coming from someone who tries to blame the
> > President and Republicans for everything.
>
> > On Oct 1, 1:09 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Keith,
>
> > > How could you possibly disagree with Gaar? He's never wrong, just ask
> > > him.
>
> > > No, it's not the time to endlessly point fingers. It will accomplish
> > > absolutely nothing. Now is the time to find long-term solutions.
>
> > > Here's what you seem to be saying. When the Republicans are the
> > > majority in the Congress they can accomplish nothing due to Democratic
> > > "obstructionism". And when they are the minority they can accomplish
> > > nothing because they are not the majority. Your main goal seems to be
> > > nothing other than to make endless excuses for the Republcans, period.
>
> > > On Oct 1, 11:36 am, "Keith In Tampa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hey Hollywood,
>
> > > >  It takes a quorom in the House and a 2/3's majority in the Senate to 
> > > > get a
> > > > Bill passed.  So, no, it was not that the Republicans who were 
> > > > incompetent
> > > > or in collusion, as the short video demonstrates, just the opposite was
> > > > happening.
>
> > > > The other day, Gaar mentioned that now was not the time to point 
> > > > fingers.  I
> > > > have come to the conclusion that it is the time to point fingers, and I
> > > > respectfully disagree with Gaar.
>
> > > > If now is not the time to "point fingers", when is?   The fact is, we, 
> > > > the
> > > > people of America have been sold a bill of goods by the Democrats, and I
> > > > think that the Democrat Party needs to be exposed for the frauds that 
> > > > they
> > > > are.  Of course, they deny it, as they deny their whole agenda, when
> > > > confronted.
>
> > > > There is no American, (including you!) that can look at the facts
> > > > objectively, and come to any other conclusion, that the Democrats in 
> > > > this
> > > > Nation attempted to give free housing to those that could not afford 
> > > > it, and
> > > > pad their pockets in the process.  Don't get me wrong, there are some
> > > > Republicans that are caught up in this mix, and I want their ass hung 
> > > > out on
> > > > a sling too!
>
> > > > In truth and fact, (as the video depicted)  the Republicans have been
> > > > calling for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reform for at least four years, 
> > > > and
> > > > more like ten years!
>
> > > > If I find fault with the Republicans, it was that they were not yelling 
> > > >  and
> > > > screaming how bad our Nation's financial situation was, loud enough!   
> > > > The
> > > > Republicans should be faulted for not raising the alarm bells long ago, 
> > > > and
> > > > informing the American people.  What I find despicable, is the likes of
> > > > Barney Frank and Chris Dodd now acting as if they did nothing wrong, 
> > > > and are
> > > > trying to lie their way out of it.  These are truly the ones that are
> > > > playing Partisan politics!
>
> > > > Here is the statement that Congressman Davis released to Sean Hannity
> > > > yesterday:
>
> > > > "Like a lot of my Democratic colleagues I was too slow to appreciate the
> > > > recklessness of Fannie and Freddie. I defended their efforts to 
> > > > encourage
> > > > affordable homeownership when in retrospect I should have heeded the
> > > > concerns raised by their regulator in 2004. Frankly, I wish my 
> > > > Democratic
> > > > colleagues would admit when it comes to Fannie and Freddie, we were 
> > > > wrong.
> > > > By the way, I wish my Republican colleagues would admit that they 
> > > > missed the
> > > > early warning signs, that Wall Street deregulation was overheating the
> > > > securities market and promoting dangerously lax lending practices. When 
> > > > it
> > > > comes to the debacle in our capital markets, there is much blame to go
> > > > around for both sides."
>
> > > >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,431209,00.html
>
> > > > Bill Cliinton said on September 26, 2008:
>
> > > > "I think the responsibility that the Democrats have may rest more in
> > > > resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress, or by me when I 
> > > > was
> > > > president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae 
> > > > and
> > > > Freddie Mac."
>
> > > >http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MELTDOWN_ADS?SITE=DCUSN&SECTIO...
>
> > > > Although not "perfect", Congressman Davis's statement still 
> > > > acknowledges my
> > > > point, and should make every American stand up and take note!  
> > > > Congressman
> > > > Davis's statement goes on, in a partisan attempt to blame Republicans 
> > > > for
> > > > not tightening the regulatory scheme, when in fact, it was the Clinton
> > > > Administration and Robert Rubin who was pushing for the deregulation. 
> > > > Former
> > > > Goldman Sachs partner Robert Rubin, who was President Clinton's Treasury
> > > > Secretary. In a 1995 speech and testimony to Congress,  Rubin advocated 
> > > > the
> > > > Bill, and professed the Clinton Administration's intent to repeal the
> > > > Glass-Steagall Act:
>
> > > > "The banking industry is fundamentally different from what it was two
> > > > decades ago, let alone in 1933….[T]he industry has been transformed 
> > > > into a
> > > > global business of facilitating capital formation through diverse new
> > > > products, services and markets. U.S. banks generally engage in a broader
> > > > range of securities activities abroad than is permitted domestically… 
> > > > Even
> > > > domestically, the separation of investment banking and commercial 
> > > > banking
> > > > envisioned by Glass-Steagall has eroded significantly."
>
> > > > *http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/story/pilgrim/2008/09/19/the_pla...<mhtml:{F13FC907-ED16-4625-B99F-FC7402DA3B1C}mid://00000154/!x-usc:http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/story/pilgrim/2008/09/19/the_pla...>
> > > > *
>
> > > > * *
>
> > > > By the mid 1990s, the Clinton Administration had in fact adopted a 
> > > > "quota
> > > > system" , and unabashedly favored expansion of, and the empowered  use 
> > > > of
> > > > the "Community Reinvestment Act",  believing that a governmental 
> > > > response to
> > > > economic problems in inner cities is generally more effective than a 
> > > > market
> > > > solution. Eugene Ludwig,  President Clinton's Comptroller of the 
> > > > Currency
> > > > and head of the Office of the Comptroller and Currency, was a strong
> > > > proponent of expanding the reach of Community Reinvestment Act.  He 
> > > > said in
> > > > his confirmation hearing that his first priority as Comptroller would 
> > > > be to
> > > > eliminate "discrimination from our financial system, root and branch."
> > > > He told bankers that "If you seize this issue as an opportunity, you 
> > > > will
> > > > reap the benefits in the form of new business and heightened respect 
> > > > from
> > > > the press, the Congress, and your communities."  (*See* the CATO 
> > > > Institute,
> > > > a non-partisan Libertarian Think-Tank, link provided below)
>
> > > > With regard to the Community Reinvestment Act, Attorney General Janet 
> > > > Reno
> > > > said,
>
> > > > "No loan is exempt, no bank is immune. For those who thumb their nose 
> > > > at us,
> > > > I promise vigorous enforcement."
>
> > > > *http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:90IT4MK9474J:www.cato.org/pubs/r...
> > > > *<mhtml:{F13FC907-ED16-4625-B99F-FC7402DA3B1C}mid://00000154/!x-usc:http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:90IT4MK9474J:www.cato.org/pubs/r...>
>
> > > > On Oct 1, 11:29 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > keith,
>
> > > > > Yes I did, how else would I have known it was made in late 2004?
>
> > > > > On Sep 30, 11:46 pm, KeithInTampa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hollywood,
>
> > > > > > How is there an argument here?
>
> > > > > > You obviously did not watch the video.  On top of that, Congressman
> > > > > > Arthur Davis From Alabama released a statement to Sean Hannity
> > > > > > tonight,  in response to this video, and admitted that the Democrats
> > > > > > were wrong  and misplaced  on their approach to Freddie Mac and 
> > > > > > Fannie
> > > > > > Mae. The statement is not appearing on the FOX News web site yet.- 
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