And I take note that you have not addressed the many points made directly to you in this Thread...
Imagine that. On Oct 1, 4:29 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gaar, > > How fortunate for me I don't give a shit about your opinion. > > I take note of the fact that you did not answer my challenge. > > On Oct 1, 6:06 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Again, pretty funny coming from one of the biggest whiners here... > > > On Oct 1, 3:55 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Gaar, > > > > Really? Show me where I try to blame GB and the Republicans for > > > EVERYTHING. > > > > You should like a little kid whining "But MAAAAW, you let little Timmy > > > do EVERYTHING and I never get to do ANYTHING, WAAAAAA!" > > > > On Oct 1, 3:51 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > That's pretty funny coming from someone who tries to blame the > > > > President and Republicans for everything. > > > > > On Oct 1, 1:09 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Keith, > > > > > > How could you possibly disagree with Gaar? He's never wrong, just ask > > > > > him. > > > > > > No, it's not the time to endlessly point fingers. It will accomplish > > > > > absolutely nothing. Now is the time to find long-term solutions. > > > > > > Here's what you seem to be saying. When the Republicans are the > > > > > majority in the Congress they can accomplish nothing due to Democratic > > > > > "obstructionism". And when they are the minority they can accomplish > > > > > nothing because they are not the majority. Your main goal seems to be > > > > > nothing other than to make endless excuses for the Republcans, period. > > > > > > On Oct 1, 11:36 am, "Keith In Tampa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey Hollywood, > > > > > > > It takes a quorom in the House and a 2/3's majority in the Senate > > > > > > to get a > > > > > > Bill passed. So, no, it was not that the Republicans who were > > > > > > incompetent > > > > > > or in collusion, as the short video demonstrates, just the opposite > > > > > > was > > > > > > happening. > > > > > > > The other day, Gaar mentioned that now was not the time to point > > > > > > fingers. I > > > > > > have come to the conclusion that it is the time to point fingers, > > > > > > and I > > > > > > respectfully disagree with Gaar. > > > > > > > If now is not the time to "point fingers", when is? The fact is, > > > > > > we, the > > > > > > people of America have been sold a bill of goods by the Democrats, > > > > > > and I > > > > > > think that the Democrat Party needs to be exposed for the frauds > > > > > > that they > > > > > > are. Of course, they deny it, as they deny their whole agenda, when > > > > > > confronted. > > > > > > > There is no American, (including you!) that can look at the facts > > > > > > objectively, and come to any other conclusion, that the Democrats > > > > > > in this > > > > > > Nation attempted to give free housing to those that could not > > > > > > afford it, and > > > > > > pad their pockets in the process. Don't get me wrong, there are > > > > > > some > > > > > > Republicans that are caught up in this mix, and I want their ass > > > > > > hung out on > > > > > > a sling too! > > > > > > > In truth and fact, (as the video depicted) the Republicans have > > > > > > been > > > > > > calling for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reform for at least four > > > > > > years, and > > > > > > more like ten years! > > > > > > > If I find fault with the Republicans, it was that they were not > > > > > > yelling and > > > > > > screaming how bad our Nation's financial situation was, loud > > > > > > enough! The > > > > > > Republicans should be faulted for not raising the alarm bells long > > > > > > ago, and > > > > > > informing the American people. What I find despicable, is the > > > > > > likes of > > > > > > Barney Frank and Chris Dodd now acting as if they did nothing > > > > > > wrong, and are > > > > > > trying to lie their way out of it. These are truly the ones that > > > > > > are > > > > > > playing Partisan politics! > > > > > > > Here is the statement that Congressman Davis released to Sean > > > > > > Hannity > > > > > > yesterday: > > > > > > > "Like a lot of my Democratic colleagues I was too slow to > > > > > > appreciate the > > > > > > recklessness of Fannie and Freddie. I defended their efforts to > > > > > > encourage > > > > > > affordable homeownership when in retrospect I should have heeded the > > > > > > concerns raised by their regulator in 2004. Frankly, I wish my > > > > > > Democratic > > > > > > colleagues would admit when it comes to Fannie and Freddie, we were > > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > By the way, I wish my Republican colleagues would admit that they > > > > > > missed the > > > > > > early warning signs, that Wall Street deregulation was overheating > > > > > > the > > > > > > securities market and promoting dangerously lax lending practices. > > > > > > When it > > > > > > comes to the debacle in our capital markets, there is much blame to > > > > > > go > > > > > > around for both sides." > > > > > > >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,431209,00.html > > > > > > > Bill Cliinton said on September 26, 2008: > > > > > > > "I think the responsibility that the Democrats have may rest more in > > > > > > resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress, or by me when > > > > > > I was > > > > > > president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie > > > > > > Mae and > > > > > > Freddie Mac." > > > > > > >http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MELTDOWN_ADS?SITE=DCUSN&SECTIO... > > > > > > > Although not "perfect", Congressman Davis's statement still > > > > > > acknowledges my > > > > > > point, and should make every American stand up and take note! > > > > > > Congressman > > > > > > Davis's statement goes on, in a partisan attempt to blame > > > > > > Republicans for > > > > > > not tightening the regulatory scheme, when in fact, it was the > > > > > > Clinton > > > > > > Administration and Robert Rubin who was pushing for the > > > > > > deregulation. Former > > > > > > Goldman Sachs partner Robert Rubin, who was President Clinton's > > > > > > Treasury > > > > > > Secretary. In a 1995 speech and testimony to Congress, Rubin > > > > > > advocated the > > > > > > Bill, and professed the Clinton Administration's intent to repeal > > > > > > the > > > > > > Glass-Steagall Act: > > > > > > > "The banking industry is fundamentally different from what it was > > > > > > two > > > > > > decades ago, let alone in 1933….[T]he industry has been transformed > > > > > > into a > > > > > > global business of facilitating capital formation through diverse > > > > > > new > > > > > > products, services and markets. U.S. banks generally engage in a > > > > > > broader > > > > > > range of securities activities abroad than is permitted > > > > > > domestically… Even > > > > > > domestically, the separation of investment banking and commercial > > > > > > banking > > > > > > envisioned by Glass-Steagall has eroded significantly." > > > > > > > *http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/story/pilgrim/2008/09/19/the_pla...<mhtml:{F13FC907-ED16-4625-B99F-FC7402DA3B1C}mid://00000154/!x-usc:http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/story/pilgrim/2008/09/19/the_pla...> > > > > > > * > > > > > > > * * > > > > > > > By the mid 1990s, the Clinton Administration had in fact adopted a > > > > > > "quota > > > > > > system" , and unabashedly favored expansion of, and the empowered > > > > > > use of > > > > > > the "Community Reinvestment Act", believing that a governmental > > > > > > response to > > > > > > economic problems in inner cities is generally more effective than > > > > > > a market > > > > > > solution. Eugene Ludwig, President Clinton's Comptroller of the > > > > > > Currency > > > > > > and head of the Office of the Comptroller and Currency, was a strong > > > > > > proponent of expanding the reach of Community Reinvestment Act. He > > > > > > said in > > > > > > his confirmation hearing that his first priority as Comptroller > > > > > > would be to > > > > > > eliminate "discrimination from our financial system, root and > > > > > > branch." > > > > > > He told bankers that "If you seize this issue as an opportunity, > > > > > > you will > > > > > > reap the benefits in the form of new business and heightened > > > > > > respect from > > > > > > the press, the Congress, and your communities." (*See* the CATO > > > > > > Institute, > > > > > > a non-partisan Libertarian Think-Tank, link provided below) > > > > > > > With regard to the Community Reinvestment Act, Attorney General > > > > > > Janet Reno > > > > > > said, > > > > > > > "No loan is exempt, no bank is immune. For those who thumb their > > > > > > nose at us, > > > > > > I promise vigorous enforcement." > > > > > > > *http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:90IT4MK9474J:www.cato.org/pubs/r... > > > > > > *<mhtml:{F13FC907-ED16-4625-B99F-FC7402DA3B1C}mid://00000154/!x-usc:http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:90IT4MK9474J:www.cato.org/pubs/r...> > > > > > > > On Oct 1, 11:29 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > keith, > > > > > > > > Yes I did, how else would I have known it was made in late 2004? > > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 11:46 pm, KeithInTampa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hollywood, > > > > > > > > > How is there an argument here? > > > > > > > > > You obviously did not watch the video. On top of that, > > > > > > > > Congressman > > > > > > > > Arthur Davis From Alabama released a statement to Sean Hannity > > > > > > > > tonight, in response to this video, and admitted that the > > > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > > > were wrong and misplaced on their approach to Freddie Mac and > > > > > > > > Fannie > > > > > > > > Mae. The statement is not appearing on the FOX News web site > > > > > > > > yet.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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