You think I give a shit what he "said"? If your "system" needs to espouse the destruction of all other Systems, in order to be sucessful, I think you need to re-think your System.
On Oct 6, 12:43 pm, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No Gaar, I am not claiming anything, i am stating a fact, here it is > straight from the horses mouth. > > On March 7, 1918, Lenin said: “This is a lesson to us because the > absolute truth is that without a revolution in Germany, we shall > perish.” > > A week later he said: “World imperialism cannot live side by side with > a victorious advancing social revolution.” > > A few weeks later, on April 23, Lenin said: “Our backwardness has > thrust us forward and we will perish if we are unable to hold out > until we meet with the mighty support of the insurrectionary workers > of other countries.” > > In March 1919, Lenin again repeated: “We do not live merely in a state > but in a system of states and the existence of the Soviet Republic > side by side with imperialist states for any length of time is > inconceivable. In the end one or the other must triumph.” > > April 7, 1920, Lenin reiterates: “Capitalism, if taken on an > international scale, is even now, not only in a military but also in > an economic sense, stronger than the Soviet power. We must proceed > from this fundamental consideration and never forget it.” > > But perhaps the continued existence of the Soviet Republic impelled > Lenin to “recognize his mistake” and renounce his “lack of faith in > the inner force” of the October Revolution? > > July 1921, Lenin declared in the theses on the tactics of the > Communist Party of Russia: “An equilibrium has been created, which > though extremely precarious and unstable, nevertheless enables the > socialist republic to maintain its existence within capitalist > surroundings, although of course not for any great length of time.” > > Again, on July 5, 1921, Lenin stated point-blank at one of the > sessions of the Congress: ‘It was clear to us that without aid from > the international world revolution, a victory of the proletarian > revolution is impossible. Even prior to the revolution, as well as > after it, we thought that the revolution would also occur either > immediately or at least very soon in other backward countries and in > the more highly developed capitalist countries, otherwise we would > perish. Notwithstanding this conviction, we did our utmost to preserve > the Soviet system under any circumstances and at all costs, because we > know that we are working not only for ourselves but also for the > international revolution.” > > How infinitely removed are these words, so superb in their simplicity > and permeated with the spirit of internationalism, from the present > smug fabrications of the epigones! > > The Third International After Lenin, L. Trotsky. > > Oouch! > > On Oct 7, 6:25 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Oct 6, 12:16 pm, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The > > > most important prerequisite for Socialism demands the eradication of > > > the nation state and all national boarders and boundaries and the free > > > movement of people all over the world without restriction. > > > Well of course it does... > > > Since it doesn't work well in an Individual Country, you have to claim > > that is because it needs to happen everywhere. > > > Capitalism doesn't care, and carries on regardless of what others do. > > > Your Death Knell of Capitalism is a Fantasy taking place only in your > > own tiny little mind. > > > You obviously don't understand the "Big Picture" and how the U.S. > > creates the most Wealth the World has ever seen, bar none. > > > When People were complaining that these Foreign Nations were buying > > all of our Debt, guess what was a big part of that "Buy"?!?!?!? > > > And now the World is doing worse than we are, because WE have SHOWN > > that we are the most stable during a Crisis, and that is what we have. > > > So sit back and watch as the U.S. drives the World Economy, yet again. > > > Looks like it is going to be time to start finding some Deals in the > > Markets... > > > I have 2 words for anyone with Cash and the ability to spend it on > > Investments: Consumer Staples.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
