i have already done just that sparky and i used of all people G W Bush
to do it !
Is John McCain a Crook?
http://www.slate.com/id/1004633/

On Oct 7, 6:53 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you are a true and utter idiot.  you need to dispute the real facts
> stated by the DEM who investigated, not you lying partisan hacks who
> would not know the truth if it was shoved up their ass.  what you got
> shoved up your ass murky
>
> On Oct 7, 6:41 am, "[ a patriotic Republican  ]"
>
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> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > McCain is dirty and got a free pass for his part in this issue as the
> > facts show .  if you can dispute them please do so
>
> > On Oct 7, 6:37 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > so murky, are you calling a loyal dem, and clinton lawyer, the man
> > > behind the whole investigation a liar?  are you ?  just cannot except
> > > the truth can ya?  retard
>
> > > On Oct 7, 6:30 am, "[ a patriotic Republican  ]"
>
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Is John McCain a Crook?http://www.slate.com/id/1004633/
> > > > The controversial George W. Bush-sponsored poll in South Carolina
> > > > mentioned John McCain's role in the so-called Keating Five scandal,
> > > > and McCain says his involvement in the scandal "will probably be on my
> > > > tombstone." What exactly did McCain do?
>
> > > > In early 1987, at the beginning of his first Senate term, McCain
> > > > attended two meetings with federal banking regulators to discuss an
> > > > investigation into Lincoln Savings and Loan, an Irvine, Calif., thrift
> > > > owned by Arizona developer Charles Keating. Federal auditors were
> > > > investigating Keating's banking practices, and Keating, fearful that
> > > > the government would seize his S&L, sought intervention from a number
> > > > of U.S. senators.
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> > > > At Keating's behest, four senators--McCain and Democrats Dennis
> > > > DeConcini of Arizona, Alan Cranston of California, and John Glenn of
> > > > Ohio--met with Ed Gray, chairman of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board,
> > > > on April 2. Those four senators and Sen. Don Riegle, D-Mich., attended
> > > > a second meeting at Keating's behest on April 9 with bank regulators
> > > > in San Francisco.
>
> > > > Regulators did not seize Lincoln Savings and Loan until two years
> > > > later. The Lincoln bailout cost taxpayers $2.6 billion, making it the
> > > > biggest of the S&L scandals. In addition, 17,000 Lincoln investors
> > > > lost $190 million.
>
> > > > In November 1990, the Senate Ethics Committee launched an
> > > > investigation into the meetings between the senators and the
> > > > regulators. McCain, Cranston, DeConcini, Glenn, and Riegle became
> > > > known as the Keating Five.
>
> > > > (Keating himself was convicted in January 1993 of 73 counts of wire
> > > > and bankruptcy fraud and served more than four years in prison before
> > > > his conviction was overturned. Last year, he pleaded guilty to four
> > > > counts of fraud and was sentenced to time served.)
>
> > > > McCain defended his attendance at the meetings by saying Keating was a
> > > > constituent and that Keating's development company, American
> > > > Continental Corporation, was a major Arizona employer. McCain said he
> > > > wanted to know only whether Keating was being treated fairly and that
> > > > he had not tried to influence the regulators. At the second meeting,
> > > > McCain told the regulators, "I wouldn't want any special favors for
> > > > them," and "I don't want any part of our conversation to be improper."
>
> > > > But Keating was more than a constituent to McCain--he was a longtime
> > > > friend and associate. McCain met Keating in 1981 at a Navy League
> > > > dinner in Arizona where McCain was the speaker. Keating was a former
> > > > naval aviator himself, and the two men became friends. Keating raised
> > > > money for McCain's two congressional campaigns in 1982 and 1984, and
> > > > for McCain's 1986 Senate bid. By 1987, McCain campaigns had received
> > > > $112,000 from Keating, his relatives, and his employees--the most
> > > > received by any of the Keating Five. (Keating raised a total of
> > > > $300,000 for the five senators.)
>
> > > > After McCain's election to the House in 1982, he and his family made
> > > > at least nine trips at Keating's expense, three of which were to
> > > > Keating's Bahamas retreat. McCain did not disclose the trips (as he
> > > > was required to under House rules) until the scandal broke in 1989. At
> > > > that point, he paid Keating $13,433 for the flights.
>
> > > > And in April 1986, one year before the meeting with the regulators,
> > > > McCain's wife, Cindy, and her father invested $359,100 in a Keating
> > > > strip mall.
>
> > > > The Senate Ethics Committee probe of the Keating Five began in
> > > > November 1990, and committee Special Counsel Robert Bennett
> > > > recommended that McCain and Glenn be dropped from the investigation.
> > > > They were not. McCain believes Democrats on the committee blocked
> > > > Bennett's recommendation because he was the lone Keating Five
> > > > Republican.
>
> > > > In February 1991, the Senate Ethics Committee found McCain and Glenn
> > > > to be the least blameworthy of the five senators. (McCain and Glenn
> > > > attended the meetings but did nothing else to influence the
> > > > regulators.) McCain was guilty of nothing more than "poor judgment,"
> > > > the committee said, and declared his actions were not "improper nor
> > > > attended with gross negligence." McCain considered the committee's
> > > > judgment to be "full exoneration," and he contributed $112,000 (the
> > > > amount raised for him by Keating) to the U.S. Treasury.
>
> > > > Next question?
>
> > > > On Oct 6, 7:38 pm, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > PHOENIX -- The McCain campaign pushed back hard against the new Obama
> > > > > attack over the Keating Five, arguing that the Arizona senator was
> > > > > treated unfairly by the Senate ethics investigation and asserting that
> > > > > John McCain had been much more open about his relationship with
> > > > > disgraced thrift executive Charles Keating than Obama has been about
> > > > > his connection with one-time radical William Ayers.
>
> > > > > In a conference call with reporters this afternoon, John Dowd, the
> > > > > Washington lawyer who represented McCain during the Senate
> > > > > investigation, called the inquiry a "classic political smear job" by
> > > > > the Democrats running the Senate at the time, saying that they only
> > > > > included McCain to make sure that a Republican was among the targets.
> > > > > "John had not done anything wrong," Dowd said.
>
> > > > > Dowd's point of view was amplified by Robert Bennett, the Washington
> > > > > lawyer and Democrat who served as special counsel to the Senate Ethics
> > > > > Committee during the Keating Five investigation, which focused on
> > > > > whether McCain and other senators exercised improper political
> > > > > influence over the regulation of Keating's failed Lincoln Savings &
> > > > > Loan.
>
> > > > > In an interview, Bennett said McCain should never have been dragged
> > > > > into the ethics case to begin with. He said that after his own lengthy
> > > > > investigation, he came to the conclusion that the case against McCain
> > > > > and former Sen. John Glenn (D-Ohio) "should have been dropped" because
> > > > > the evidence suggested that once McCain understood that the Justice
> > > > > Department was investigating Keating, he backed off any involvement.
> > > > > Dowd noted that McCain threw Keating,once a strong supporter, out of
> > > > > his office after Keating pressed him to intervene in his case.
>
> > > > > Bennett said former Sen. Howell Hefflin (D-Ala.) insisted that the two
> > > > > be included in the formal public inquiry because otherwise there would
> > > > > have been a month of public hearings "with no Republicans in the
> > > > > dock." The other members of the Keating Five were Democrats.
>
> > > > > "It was clear that McCain should not have been at the table nor should
> > > > > Glenn," Bennett said. "I felt it was unfair for McCain to be included
> > > > > as part of the Keating Five."
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