I heard McKinney is turning tricks for votes.
On Oct 16, 12:29 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm voting for Cynthia McKinney.
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> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Zebnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Well, I'll satisfy you all and ask you the CBS poll question:
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> > In the upcoming Presidential election, will you be voting for the
> > bright, young, fresh American, Barack Obama or will you be wasting
> > your vote on the dour, hateful, nearly dead John McSame?
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> > On Oct 16, 11:39 am, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > i would love to be asked by a polster on the street. LOL
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> > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > EIGHTY-FOUR PERCENT SAY THEY'D NEVER LIE TO A POLLSTER
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> > > > October 15, 2008
> > > > Ann Coulter
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> > > > With an African-American running for president this year, there has
> > been a
> > > > lot of chatter about the "Bradley effect," allowing the media to wail
> > about
> > > > institutional racism in America.
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> > > > Named after Tom Bradley, who lost his election for California governor
> > in
> > > > 1982 despite a substantial lead in the polls, the Bradley effect says
> > that
> > > > black candidates will poll much stronger than the actual election
> > results.
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> > > > First of all, if true, this is the opposite of racism: It is fear of
> > being
> > > > accused of racism. For most Americans, there is nothing more terrifying
> > than
> > > > the prospect of being called a racist. It's scarier than flood or
> > famine,
> > > > terrorist attacks or flesh-eating bacteria. To some, it's even scarier
> > than
> > > > "food insecurity."
>
> > > > Political correctness has taught people to lie to pollsters rather than
> > be
> > > > forced to explain why they're not voting for the African-American.
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> > > > This is how two typical voters might answer a pollster's question:
> > "Whom do
> > > > you support for president?"
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> > > > Average Obama voter: "Obama." (Name of average Obama voter: "Mickey
> > > > Mouse.")
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> > > > Average McCain voter: "I'm voting for McCain, but I swear it's just
> > about
> > > > the issues. It's not because Obama's black. If Barack Obama were a
> > little
> > > > more moderate -- hey, I'd vote for Colin Powell. But my convictions
> > force me
> > > > to vote for the candidate who just happens to be white. Say, do you
> > know
> > > > where I can get Patti LaBelle tickets?"
>
> > > > In addition to the social pressure to constantly prove you're not a
> > racist,
> > > > apparently there is massive social pressure to prove you're not a
> > > > Republican. No one is lying about voting for McCain just to sound cool.
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> > > > Reviewing the polls printed in The New York Times and The Washington
> > Post
> > > > in the last month of every presidential election since 1976, I found
> > the
> > > > polls were never wrong in a friendly way to Republicans. When the polls
> > were
> > > > wrong, which was often, they overestimated support for the Democrat,
> > usually
> > > > by about 6 to 10 points.
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> > > > In 1976, Jimmy Carter narrowly beat Gerald Ford 50.1 percent to 48
> > percent.
> > > > And yet, on Sept. 1, Carter led Ford by 15 points. Just weeks before
> > the
> > > > election, on Oct. 16, 1976, Carter led Ford in the Gallup Poll by 6
> > > > percentage points -- down from his 33-point Gallup Poll lead in August.
>
> > > > Reading newspaper coverage of presidential elections in 1980 and 1984,
> > I
> > > > found myself paralyzed by the fear that Reagan was going to lose.
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> > > > In 1980, Ronald Reagan beat Carter by nearly 10 points, 51 percent to
> > 41
> > > > percent. In a Gallup Poll released days before the election on Oct. 27,
> > it
> > > > was Carter who led Reagan 45 percent to 42 percent.
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> > > > In 1984, Reagan walloped Walter Mondale 58.8 percent to 40 percent, --
> > the
> > > > largest electoral landslide in U.S. history. But on Oct. 15, The New
> > York
> > > > Daily News published a poll showing Mondale with only a 4-point deficit
> > to
> > > > Reagan, 45 percent to 41 percent. A Harris Poll about the same time
> > showed
> > > > Reagan with only a 9-point lead. The Oct. 19 New York Times/CBS News
> > Poll
> > > > had Mr. Reagan ahead of Mondale by 13 points. All these polls
> > underestimated
> > > > Reagan's actual margin of victory by 6 to 15 points.
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> > > > In 1988, George H.W. Bush beat Michael Dukakis by a whopping 53.4
> > percent
> > > > to 45.6 percent. A New York Times/CBS News Poll on Oct. 5 had Bush
> > leading
> > > > the Greek homunculus by a statistically insignificant 2 points -- 45
> > percent
> > > > to 43 percent. (For the kids out there: Before it became a
> > clearinghouse for
> > > > anti-Bush conspiracy theories, CBS News was considered a credible
> > > > journalistic entity.)
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> > > > A week later -- or one tank ride later, depending on who's telling the
> > > > story -- on Oct. 13, Bush was leading Dukakis in The New York Times
> > Poll by
> > > > a mere 5 points.
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> > > > Admittedly, a 3- to 6-point error is not as crazily wrong as the 6- to
> > > > 15-point error in 1984. But it's striking that even small "margin of
> > error"
> > > > mistakes never seem to benefit Republicans.
>
> > > > In 1992, Bill Clinton beat the first President Bush 43 percent to 37.7
> > > > percent. (Ross Perot got 18.9 percent of Bush's voters that year.) On
> > Oct.
> > > > 18, a Newsweek Poll had Clinton winning 46 percent to 31 percent, and a
> > CBS
> > > > News Poll showed Clinton winning 47 percent to 35 percent.
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> > > > So in 1992, the polls had Clinton 12 to 15 points ahead, but he won by
> > only
> > > > 5.3 points.
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> > > > In 1996, Bill Clinton beat Bob Dole 49 percent to 40 percent. And yet
> > on
> > > > Oct. 22, 1996, The New York Times/CBS News Poll showed Clinton leading
> > by a
> > > > massive 22 points, 55 percent to 33 percent.
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> > > > In 2000, which I seem to recall as being fairly close, the October
> > polls
> > > > accurately described the election as a virtual tie, with either Bush or
> > Al
> > > > Gore 1 or 2 points ahead in various polls. But in one of the latest
> > polls to
> > > > give either candidate a clear advantage, The New York Times/CBS News
> > Poll on
> > > > Oct. 3, 2000, showed Gore winning by 45 percent to 39 percent.
>
> > > > In the last presidential election the polls were surprisingly accurate
> > --
> > > > not including the massively inaccurate Election Day exit poll. In the
> > end,
> > > > Bush beat John Kerry 50.7 percent to 48.3 percent in 2004. Most of the
> > > > October polls showed the candidates in a dead-heat, with Bush 1 to 3
> > points
> > > > ahead. So either pollsters got a whole lot better starting in 2004, or
> > > > Democrats stole more votes in that election than we even realized.
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> > > > *www.anncoulter.com*
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