Actually, I feel grateful to the America I knew and the
accomplishments of my ancestors. So it is with sad revenge I refuse to
buy and sell into our present chaos. Buffett is a clown and stingy-
see Rose. A friend's husband bought Buffett's used wallet at an
auction for 40 grand, I think. To what purpose?

On Oct 17, 2:15�am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The American dream, when the US with 6% of the world's population
> consumed 50% of the world's commodities is over. The foundations on
> which the dream was built-- the power of US industry and its banks
> are
> no more. The US is a tattered absurd caricature of its former
> self, as the institutions upon which is rose collapse one
> after the other like a house of cards
>
> On Oct 17, 3:03�pm, "M.A. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Good and Bad CreditbyFrank Shostak
> > Posted on 10/16/2008
> > On Wednesday October 8 the Federal Reserve, European Central Bank, and four 
> > other central banks lowered interest rates in an emergency coordinated bid 
> > to ease the economic effects of the financial crisis.
> > The Fed, ECB, Bank of England, Bank of Canada, and Sweden's Riksbank each 
> > cut their benchmark rates by half a percentage point. Furthermore, China's 
> > central bank lowered its key one-year lending rate by 0.27 percentage 
> > points. According to a joint statement by the central banks,The recent 
> > intensification of the financial crisis has augmented the downside risks to 
> > growth and thus has diminished further the upside risks to price stability. 
> > Some easing of global monetary conditions is therefore warranted.The Fed's 
> > decision brought its benchmark rate to 1.5%. The ECB's main rate is now 
> > 3.75%; Canada's fell to 2.5%; the U.K.'s rate dropped to 4.5%; and Sweden's 
> > rate declined to 4.25%. China cut interest rates for the second time in 
> > three weeks, reducing the main rate to 6.93%. One day earlier the Reserve 
> > Bank of Australia had lowered its policy rate the cash rate by 1% to 6%.
> > Only a day earlier Federal Reserve Chairman Bernanke announced that the US 
> > central bank is ready to intervene in the commercial paper market. The Fed 
> > will now buy commercial paper issued by corporations meaning the US central 
> > bank will make direct loans to corporations.
> > It seems that Bernanke is ready to push trillions of dollars to keep the 
> > monetary system alive.
> > Bernanke is of the view that a major reason for the Great Depression of 
> > 1930s was the failure of the US central bank to act swiftly to revive the 
> > paralyzed credit market. By "swift action," Bernanke means massive monetary 
> > pumping.
> > The Fed chairman continuously reminds us that at least he has learned the 
> > lesson of the Great Depression and will make sure that the error that the 
> > Fed made then will not be repeated again.
> > At theconferenceto honor Milton Friedman's ninetieth birthday, Bernanke 
> > apologized to Friedman on behalf of the Fed for not pumping enough money to 
> > prevent the Great Depression:Let me end my talk by abusing slightly my 
> > status as an official representative of the Federal Reserve. I would like 
> > to say to Milton and Anna: Regarding the Great Depression. You're right, we 
> > did it. We're very sorry. But thanks to you, we won't do it again.(Milton 
> > Friedman and Anna Schwartzwrotethat the key factor behind the Great 
> > Depression was the failure by the Fed to pump large doses of money.)
> > Central-bank policy makers have said that the key for economic growth is a 
> > smooth flow of credit. For them (in particular, for Bernanke) it is credit 
> > that provides the foundation for economic growth and raises individuals' 
> > living standards. From this perspective, it makes a lot of sense for the 
> > central bank to make sure that credit flows again.
> > Following the teachings of Friedman and Keynes, it is an almost-unanimous 
> > view among experts that if lenders are unwilling to lend, then it is the 
> > duty of the government and the central bank to keep the flow of lending 
> > going.
> > For instance, if in the commercial-paper market lenders are not there, then 
> > the Fed should step in and replace these lenders. The important thing, it 
> > is held, is that various businesses that rely on the commercial-paper 
> > market to keep their daily operations going should be able to secure the 
> > necessary funding.
> > Will the increase in money pumping by central banks unfreeze credit 
> > markets? Experts believe that this will do the trick. If the current dosage 
> > of pumping won't work, then the central bank must continue to push more 
> > money until credit markets start moving again, so it is believed.
> > It is true that credit is the key for economic growth. However, one must 
> > make a distinction between good credit and bad credit. It is good credit 
> > that makes real economic growth possible and thus improves people's lives 
> > and well-being. False credit, however, is an agent of economic destruction 
> > and leads to economic impoverishment.Good Credit versus Bad CreditThere are 
> > two kinds of credit: that which would be offered in a market economy with 
> > sound money and banking (good credit); and that which is made possible only 
> > through a system of central banking, artificially low interest rates, and 
> > fractional reserves (bad credit).
> > Banks cannot expand good credit as such. All that they can do in reality is 
> > to facilitate the transfer of a given pool of savings from savers (lenders) 
> > to borrowers. To understand why, we must first understand how good credit 
> > comes to be and the function it serves.
> > Consider the case of a baker who bakes ten loaves of bread. Out of his 
> > stock of real wealth (ten loaves of bread), the baker consumes two loaves 
> > and saves eight. He lends his eight remaining loaves to the shoemaker in 
> > return for a pair of shoes in one week's time. Note that credit here is the 
> > transfer of "real stuff," i.e., eight saved loaves of bread from the baker 
> > to the shoemaker in exchange for a future pair of shoes.
> > Also, observe that the amount of real savings determines the amount of 
> > available credit. If the baker had saved only four loaves of bread, the 
> > amount of credit would have only been four loaves instead of eight.
> > Note that the saved loaves of bread provide support to the shoemaker, i.e., 
> > they sustain him while he is busy making shoes. This means that credit, by 
> > sustaining the shoemaker, gives rise to the production of shoes and 
> > therefore to the formation of more real wealth. This is a path to real 
> > economic growth.Money and CreditThe introduction of money does not alter 
> > the essence of what credit is. Instead of lending his eight loaves of bread 
> > to the shoemaker, the baker can now exchange his saved eight loaves of 
> > bread for eight dollars and then lend those dollars to the shoemaker. With 
> > eight dollars, the shoemaker can secure either eight loaves of bread (or 
> > other goods) to support him while he is engaged in the making of shoes. The 
> > baker is supplying the shoemaker with the facility to access the pool of 
> > real savings, which among other things includes eight loaves of bread that 
> > the baker has produced. Note that without real savings, the lending of 
> > money is an exercise in futility.
> > Observe that money fulfills the role of a medium of exchange. Hence, when 
> > the baker exchanges his eight loaves for eight dollars, he retains his real 
> > savings by means of the eight dollars. The money in his possession will 
> > enable him, when he deems it necessary, to reclaim his eight loaves of 
> > bread or to secure any other goods and services. There is one provision 
> > here: that the flow of production of goods continues; without the existence 
> > of goods, the money in the baker's possession will be useless.
> > The existence of banks does not alter the essence of credit. Instead of the 
> > baker lending his money directly to the shoemaker, the baker lends his 
> > money to the bank, which in turn lends it to the shoemaker.
> > In the process, the baker earns interest for his loan while the bank earns 
> > a commission for facilitating the transfer of money between the baker and 
> > the shoemaker. The benefit that the shoemaker receives is that he can now 
> > secure real resources in order to be able to engage in his making of shoes.
> > Despite the apparent complexity that the banking system introduces, the act 
> > of credit remains the transfer of saved real stuff from lender to borrower. 
> > Without the increase in the pool of real savings, banks cannot create more 
> > credit. At the heart of the expansion of good credit by the banking system 
> > is an expansion of real savings.
> > Now, when the baker lends his eight dollars, we must remember that he has 
> > exchanged for these dollars eight saved loaves of bread. In other words, he 
> > has exchanged something for eight dollars. So when a bank lends those eight 
> > dollars to the shoemaker, the bank lends fully "backed-up" dollars so to 
> > speak.False Credit Is an Agent of Economic DestructionTrouble emerges 
> > however if, instead of lending fully backed-up money, a bank engages in 
> > fractional-reserve banking, the issuing of empty money, backed up by 
> > nothing.
> > When unbacked money is created, it masquerades as genuine money that is 
> > supposedly supported by real stuff. In reality, however, nothing has been 
> > saved. So when such money is issued, it cannot help the shoemaker, since 
> > the pieces of empty paper cannot support him in producing shoes what he 
> > needs instead is bread. But, since the printed money masquerades as proper 
> > money, it can be used to "steal" bread from some other activities and 
> > thereby weaken those activities.
> > This is what the diversion of real wealth by means of money "out of thin 
> > air" is all about. If the extra eight loaves of bread aren't produced and 
> > saved, it is not possible to have more shoes without hurting some other 
> > activities activities that are much higher on the priority lists of 
> > consumers as far as life and well-being are concerned. This in turn also 
> > means that unbacked credit cannot be an agent of economic growth.
> > Rather than facilitating the transfer of savings across the economy to 
> > wealth-generating activities, when banks issue unbacked credit they are in 
> > fact setting in motion a weakening of the process of wealth formation. It 
> > has to be realized that banks cannot relentlessly pursue unbacked lending 
> > without the existence of the central bank, which, by means of monetary 
> > pumping, makes sure that the expansion of unbacked credit doesn't cause 
> > banks to bankrupt each other.
> > We can thus conclude that, as long as the increase
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