a good number of "those few" were from ACORN. Democrats and Republicans dislike different aspects of vote fraud -- Democrats regulations that "prevent folks from voting, and Republicans regulations that allow ineligible voters to register (as dead people, non citizens, felons, and people registered in different localities)... Both need to be cleaned up... It is clear you favor just non transparent elections by NOT condemning voter fraud of all types
On Oct 18, 2:49 am, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > acorn is not a part of or an agent of the DNC . and to date they have > not been convicted of voter fraud in fact very few people have ever > been convicted of that crime because it is almost non existent except > in the fevered imagination of the GOP who want to block poor people > and blacks from voting ! > > On Oct 17, 3:39 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Acorn for one. Under investigation in about 1/3 of all the states for > > voter fraud.. > > > On Oct 17, 3:39 am, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > post even one link to an " agent " of the DNC being convicted of voter > > > fraud ! > > > > On Oct 16, 2:48 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Agents the DNC and Obama regularly use have... > > > > > On Oct 16, 3:41 am, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > are you claiming the DNC or the Obama campaign has committed voter > > > > > fraud ? > > > > > > On Oct 15, 12:21 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > ACORN HAS committed voter fraud... That is the point you miss... > > > > > > There are numberous convictions in the past... 1/3 of the states > > > > > > are > > > > > > investigating ACORN for fraud now... Why, if Obama is concerned > > > > > > about fair elections, is Obama ignoring fraud done by his side in > > > > > > this > > > > > > election??? > > > > > > > On Oct 15, 4:53 am, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > A Dose of Reality on the ACORN > > > > > > > Hysteriahttp://www.truthout.org/101408VA > > > > > > > New voter location cards are being sent to over half of the > > > > > > > voters in > > > > > > > Kalamazoo, Michigan, notifying them of a change in their poll or > > > > > > > precinct location. (Photo: Jill McLane Baker / Kalamazoo Gazette) > > > > > > > It's worth taking a moment to step back from the slew of > > > > > > > charges > > > > > > > leveled over the last week at ACORN, the community-organizing > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > that Republicans and the McCain campaign have been trying to turn > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > a bogeyman for fears about vote fraud (and, of course, tie to > > > > > > > Barack > > > > > > > Obama). > > > > > > > > The GOP has accused ACORN of submitting fraudulent voter > > > > > > > registration forms numbering in the hundreds or thousands, in > > > > > > > battleground states including Ohio, Indiana, Nevada, and Missouri. > > > > > > > > But the most important point that's getting lost in the Fox- > > > > > > > generated hysteria is that, according to voting experts, even when > > > > > > > fraudulent voter registration forms are submitted, they virtually > > > > > > > never lead to fraudulent votes being cast. Richard Hasen, a law > > > > > > > professor at Loyola and an authority on voting law, wrote in a > > > > > > > 2007 op- > > > > > > > ed published last year in the Dallas Morning News and noted > > > > > > > recently > > > > > > > by TPM, that "the idea of massive polling-place fraud (through > > > > > > > the use > > > > > > > of inflated voter rolls) is inherently incredible," because of the > > > > > > > sheer logistical challenges it would require to carry out on a > > > > > > > large > > > > > > > scale. > > > > > > > > In many states, ACORN is required by law to turn in all the > > > > > > > forms > > > > > > > it collects, though the law differs from state to law, according > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > experts. > > > > > > > > ACORN has consistently said that it flags suspicious forms for > > > > > > > election officials. Indeed, in Nevada where last week an ACORN > > > > > > > office > > > > > > > was raided in an investigation headed by the Secretary of State, > > > > > > > ACORN > > > > > > > was already cooperating with authorities. > > > > > > > > According to a statement from the group which has not been > > > > > > > disputed by state officials, in July, ACORN set up a meeting with > > > > > > > county elections officials and the Secretary of State's office to > > > > > > > urge > > > > > > > them to take action on information ACORN had provided. Since then, > > > > > > > "ACORN has provided officials with copies and - in some cases - > > > > > > > second > > > > > > > copies of many of the personnel records and the 'problem card > > > > > > > packages' and cover sheets with which we originally identified the > > > > > > > problem cards." > > > > > > > > It's also worth noting that similar allegations were made > > > > > > > against > > > > > > > ACORN in the last few election cycles, and several investigations > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > conducted, none of which found evidence of widespread voter fraud. > > > > > > > Many of these were conducted by US attorneys, who were pressured > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > GOP political figures to investigate the issue, then fired after > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > failed to come up with sufficient evidence. > > > > > > > > So as the GOP campaign to make an issue out of ACORN > > > > > > > continues - > > > > > > > and we'll be keeping you posted as it does - remember that the > > > > > > > number > > > > > > > of fraudulent votes that will be cast in November as a result of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > group's voter-registration activities is close to zero. But the > > > > > > > number > > > > > > > of valid voters who could potentially have obstacles placed in > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > way of voting, as a result of the Republican campaign, is far > > > > > > > larger.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
