Yep. Kinda like public financing of campaigns to level the playing field. A good idea, agreed to by both, followed by only one.
On Oct 20, 9:09 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a good number of "those few" were from ACORN. Democrats and > Republicans dislike different aspects of vote fraud -- Democrats > regulations that "prevent folks from voting, and Republicans > regulations that allow ineligible voters to register (as dead people, > non citizens, felons, and people registered in different > localities)... Both need to be cleaned up... It is clear you favor > just non transparent elections by NOT condemning voter fraud of all > types > > On Oct 18, 2:49 am, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > acorn is not a part of or an agent of the DNC . and to date they have > > not been convicted of voter fraud in fact very few people have ever > > been convicted of that crime because it is almost non existent except > > in the fevered imagination of the GOP who want to block poor people > > and blacks from voting ! > > > On Oct 17, 3:39 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Acorn for one. Under investigation in about 1/3 of all the states for > > > voter fraud.. > > > > On Oct 17, 3:39 am, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > post even one link to an " agent " of the DNC being convicted of voter > > > > fraud ! > > > > > On Oct 16, 2:48 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Agents the DNC and Obama regularly use have... > > > > > > On Oct 16, 3:41 am, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > are you claiming the DNC or the Obama campaign has committed voter > > > > > > fraud ? > > > > > > > On Oct 15, 12:21 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > ACORN HAS committed voter fraud... That is the point you miss... > > > > > > > There are numberous convictions in the past... 1/3 of the > > > > > > > states are > > > > > > > investigating ACORN for fraud now... Why, if Obama is concerned > > > > > > > about fair elections, is Obama ignoring fraud done by his side in > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > election??? > > > > > > > > On Oct 15, 4:53 am, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > A Dose of Reality on the ACORN > > > > > > > > Hysteriahttp://www.truthout.org/101408VA > > > > > > > > New voter location cards are being sent to over half of the > > > > > > > > voters in > > > > > > > > Kalamazoo, Michigan, notifying them of a change in their poll or > > > > > > > > precinct location. (Photo: Jill McLane Baker / Kalamazoo > > > > > > > > Gazette) > > > > > > > > It's worth taking a moment to step back from the slew of > > > > > > > > charges > > > > > > > > leveled over the last week at ACORN, the community-organizing > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > that Republicans and the McCain campaign have been trying to > > > > > > > > turn into > > > > > > > > a bogeyman for fears about vote fraud (and, of course, tie to > > > > > > > > Barack > > > > > > > > Obama). > > > > > > > > > The GOP has accused ACORN of submitting fraudulent voter > > > > > > > > registration forms numbering in the hundreds or thousands, in > > > > > > > > battleground states including Ohio, Indiana, Nevada, and > > > > > > > > Missouri. > > > > > > > > > But the most important point that's getting lost in the Fox- > > > > > > > > generated hysteria is that, according to voting experts, even > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > fraudulent voter registration forms are submitted, they > > > > > > > > virtually > > > > > > > > never lead to fraudulent votes being cast. Richard Hasen, a law > > > > > > > > professor at Loyola and an authority on voting law, wrote in a > > > > > > > > 2007 op- > > > > > > > > ed published last year in the Dallas Morning News and noted > > > > > > > > recently > > > > > > > > by TPM, that "the idea of massive polling-place fraud (through > > > > > > > > the use > > > > > > > > of inflated voter rolls) is inherently incredible," because of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > sheer logistical challenges it would require to carry out on a > > > > > > > > large > > > > > > > > scale. > > > > > > > > > In many states, ACORN is required by law to turn in all the > > > > > > > > forms > > > > > > > > it collects, though the law differs from state to law, > > > > > > > > according to > > > > > > > > experts. > > > > > > > > > ACORN has consistently said that it flags suspicious forms > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > election officials. Indeed, in Nevada where last week an ACORN > > > > > > > > office > > > > > > > > was raided in an investigation headed by the Secretary of > > > > > > > > State, ACORN > > > > > > > > was already cooperating with authorities. > > > > > > > > > According to a statement from the group which has not been > > > > > > > > disputed by state officials, in July, ACORN set up a meeting > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > county elections officials and the Secretary of State's office > > > > > > > > to urge > > > > > > > > them to take action on information ACORN had provided. Since > > > > > > > > then, > > > > > > > > "ACORN has provided officials with copies and - in some cases - > > > > > > > > second > > > > > > > > copies of many of the personnel records and the 'problem card > > > > > > > > packages' and cover sheets with which we originally identified > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > problem cards." > > > > > > > > > It's also worth noting that similar allegations were made > > > > > > > > against > > > > > > > > ACORN in the last few election cycles, and several > > > > > > > > investigations were > > > > > > > > conducted, none of which found evidence of widespread voter > > > > > > > > fraud. > > > > > > > > Many of these were conducted by US attorneys, who were > > > > > > > > pressured by > > > > > > > > GOP political figures to investigate the issue, then fired > > > > > > > > after they > > > > > > > > failed to come up with sufficient evidence. > > > > > > > > > So as the GOP campaign to make an issue out of ACORN > > > > > > > > continues - > > > > > > > > and we'll be keeping you posted as it does - remember that the > > > > > > > > number > > > > > > > > of fraudulent votes that will be cast in November as a result > > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > group's voter-registration activities is close to zero. But the > > > > > > > > number > > > > > > > > of valid voters who could potentially have obstacles placed in > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > way of voting, as a result of the Republican campaign, is far > > > > > > > > larger.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
