at the time McCain was born that would have made him a citizen not a natural born citizen and the eligible to run for president.
On Oct 24, 4:55 am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > McCain was born on a USA base in Panama, I believe, and descended from > USA naval admirals- a far cry from some irresponsible whacko from > Kansas who married two non-Americans. > > On Oct 23, 3:29 am, "[ vote for America ! vote for anybody but > McCain ! ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Obama was born in Hawaii there is no question of that simple fact . > > just as there is no question that Mccain was not born on American soil > > making him un eligible to be elected president . in order to ease > > things for McCain the congress passed a non binding resolution giving > > him citizenship status . > > but if anyone cares to push it he is not a natural born citizen under > > the law at the time of his birth ! > > On Oct 23, 4:15 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Oct 23, 12:17 am, "[ vote for America ! vote for anybody but > > > McCain ! ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > this was filled in penn not washinton state . > > > >http://idexer.com/2008/10/16/wa-2nd-man-files-suit-regarding-obama-ci... > > > > WA: 2nd Man files suit regarding Obama citizenship status > > > Yet another concerned citizen is going to the trouble of trying to get > > > necessary answers for the American public about the citizenship status > > > (or possible lack thereof) of Barack Obama. Steven Marquis, a resident > > > of Fall City, Washington, has filed suit in Washington State Superior > > > Court against Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed demanding > > > verification of the Democrat Presidential nominee's citizenship > > > status. Questions have been raised in various reports for several > > > months now as to whether Obama was actually born in Hawaii as his > > > campaign claims, or if he was, in fact, born in Kenya. If he was born > > > outside of the United States of America, he is not a natural born > > > citizen and is therefore disqualified from serving as President of the > > > United States. > > > >http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/Lawsuit_Sam_Reed/Press_Releas... > > > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: > > > > Contact: Steve Marquis > > > Telephone Number: 425-698-7084 > > > Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Web site address:http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/peoplesvoice.html > > > > Averting a Crisis in Confidence; Citizen files Lawsuit Against > > > Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed demanding verification of > > > Barack Obama’s citizenship status. > > > > Seattle WA. 10/9/2008 — Steven Marquis, a resident of Fall City WA > > > today filed suit in Washington State Superior Court against Secretary > > > of State Sam Reed demanding verification of Barack Obama’s citizenship > > > status. > > > > The complaint seeks specifically that the office of the Washington > > > Secretary of State verify and certify that Mr. Obama is or is not a > > > "natural born" citizen by producing original or certified verifiable > > > official documents. The lawsuit argues that this certification should > > > take place before the election to preclude a constitutional crisis and > > > likely civil unrest should such certification, after the election, > > > prove that Mr. Obama was not qualified for office. > > > > The Complaint argues that the Secretary of State has the authority and > > > duty to not only certify the voters but also and most importantly the > > > candidates and in so doing prevent the wholesale disenfranchisement of > > > voters who would had had an opportunity to choose from qualified > > > candidates had the certification preceded the election process. > > > > At this point, Mr. Obama has not allowed independent or official > > > access to his birth records nor supporting hospital records. The > > > Hawaii Health Department has violated Federal law by ignoring formal > > > Freedom of Information requests for the same. Due to the facts and > > > numerous other allegations that would challenge Mr. Obama’s > > > fundamental qualifications for office, a Federal lawsuit was filed and > > > is currently being heard in District Court, Pennsylvania. > > > > Mr. Obama failed to respond to the District Court’s request to produce > > > or allow access to the official documents (should they exist) and > > > instead filed a motion to dismiss arguing the Plaintiff had no > > > “standing” or right to know. This non-response as of 9/24/2008 in > > > Federal court casts doubt on the veracity of the electoral system and > > > is the principal reason for this lawsuit. The late entry of this suit > > > is due in principal part to Mr. Obama’s delay and subsequent non > > > response to reasonable request for valid certificates. Multiple > > > requests for early certification to the Office of the Secretary of > > > State has been rejected. > > > > [clarification: The district court process itself demands a response > > > from Mr. Obama. When a complaint is filed, the defendant has an > > > opportunity to respond to the judge regarding the plaintiffs request > > > for a preliminary injunction. Obama did respond, but not with the > > > requested documentation, not even minimally so. He responded with a > > > motion for dismissal based on “standing” rather than the merits of the > > > case] > > > > The Washington Secretary of State Office is specifically charged with > > > certifying and guaranteeing the veracity of official documents and > > > overseeing the elections to wit the people’s confidence in the > > > fundamental aspect of democracy is maintained. To date, in this > > > regard, Secretary of State Sam Reed has not carried out that > > > fundamental duty. > > > > This lawsuit demands injunctive relief directing Sam Reed, Secretary > > > of State, carry out the duty of his office in this regard answering > > > the formal complaints for verification of Mr. Obama and any other > > > candidate appearing on the ballots issues through his office for which > > > formal complaints have been received. > > > > Interested Parties may contact Plaintive as follows: > > > Contact: Steve Marquis > > > Telephone Number: 425-698-7084 > > > Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Web site address:http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/peoplesvoice.html > > > >http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/Lawsuit_Sam_Reed/Complaint_Fi... > > > > 1. MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF PLAINTIFF’S MOTION FOR AN INJUNCTIVE > > > RELIEF ORDER > > > > 1.1. Plaintiff Steven R Marquis, [hereinafter “Plaintiff”] hereby > > > offers this memorandum in support of his motion for injunctive relief, > > > to demand performance of constitutional duties related to the Office > > > of Washington State, Secretary of State by Samuel Sumner Reed, a/k/a > > > Sam Reed, [hereinafter Defendant”]. > > > > 1.2. Plaintiff’s complaint challenges the presidential candidate Mr. > > > Barack Obama’s eligibility to run for the Office of President and > > > demands that the Office of Secretary of State make such determination > > > by acquisition of original documentation or by receipt of verifiable > > > information from another government entity so charged with overseeing > > > the election process such as the Federal Elections Commission. > > > > 1.3. Plaintive argues that when a challenge is received by the > > > Washington State, Secretary of State to the qualification for office > > > of a candidate appearing on the Washington State Ballot that the > > > entire burden of proof falls on the Candidate for Office to present > > > such information and documentation to the Washington State, Secretary > > > of State as would be normal and customary to establish ones minimum > > > qualifications for office. > > > > 1.4. Plaintiff argues that the Office of Secretary of State has the > > > Constitutional and Statutory authority to make such determinations as > > > part of certifying and executing fair and open elections. > > > > 1.5. Plaintiff argues that is it only sufficient to show reasonable > > > cause for complaint to the Secretary of State for his Office to > > > require documentation of the respective candidate relevant to > > > determination of minimum qualification; that lacking explicit statute > > > defining the requisite documentation that the Secretary of State has > > > the intrinsic authority to set those reasonable standards that would > > > establish certain confidence in the people in the electoral process. > > > > 1.6. Plaintiff seeks focused and expedited review, to protect the > > > veracity of the electoral process and maintain the people’s confidence > > > in the government. > > > > 2. COMPLAINT FOR INJUNCTIVE RELIEF - PRELIMINARY STATEMENT > > > > 2.1. Article II, Section I of the United States Constitution, states > > > in particular part, "No Person except a natural born citizen, or a > > > citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this > > > constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither > > > shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have > > > attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a > > > resident within the United States." . > > > > 2.2. Mr. Barack H. Obama is a candidate for United States Office of > > > the President. However, Mr. Obama must meet the qualifications > > > specified for the United States Office of the President, which is, he > > > must be a "natural born" citizen. Mr. Obama has failed to demonstrate > > > that he is a "natural born" citizen. There are other legal challenges > > > before the Federal Courts regarding aspects of lost or dual > > > citizenship. That challenge in an of itself further demonstrates > > > plaintiff’s argument that reasonable doubt exists as to the veracity > > > of the electoral process that would allow such fundamental questions > > > exist at this late hour preceding the election. > > > > 2.3. The Washington State office of Secretary of State is responsible > > > for the veracity of the Washington State election process from > > > verifying ahead of time the qualification of the voters, the ballots > > > themselves, the > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
