On Oct 23, 3:29 am, "[ vote for America ! vote for anybody but McCain ! ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Obama was born in Hawaii there is no question of that simple fact .
Berg v. Obama: "Obama’s grandmother on his father’s side, his half-brother and half- sister all claim Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya. Reports reflect that Obama’s mother traveled to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy (which, apparently, was a normal restriction, to avoid births during a flight). By these reports, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew home and registered Obama’s birth." http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/13/0.pdf > just as there is no question that Mccain was not born on American soil > making him un eligible to be elected president . Robinson v. Bowen: "At the time of Senator McCain’s birth, the pertinent citizenship provision prescribed that “[a]ny child hereafter born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such child is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.” Act of May 24, 1934, Pub. L. No. 73-250, 48 Stat. 797. The Supreme Court has interpreted the phrase “out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States” in this statute to be the converse of the phrase “in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” in the Fourteenth Amendment, and therefore to encompass all those not granted citizenship directly by the Fourteenth Amendment.1 Under this view, Senator McCain was a citizen at birth. In 1937, to remove any doubt as to persons in Senator McCain’s circumstances in the Canal Zone, Congress enacted 8 U.S.C. 1403(a), which declared that persons in Senator McCain’s circumstances are citizens by virtue of their birth, thereby retroactively rendering Senator McCain a natural born citizen, if he was not one already. This order finds it highly probable, for the purposes of this motion for provisional relief, that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen. Plaintiff has not demonstrated the likelihood of success on the merits necessary to warrant the drastic remedy he seeks." http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/california/candce/3:2008cv03836/206145/39/0.pdf > in order to ease > things for McCain the congress passed a non binding resolution giving > him citizenship status . What a total clueless f****** IDIOT. United States Code is NOT a "non binding resolution. "In 1937, to remove any doubt as to persons in Senator McCain’s circumstances in the Canal Zone, Congress enacted 8 U.S.C. 1403(a)...." http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/california/candce/3:2008cv03836/206145/39/0.pdf > but if anyone cares to push it he is not a natural born citizen under > the law at the time of his birth ! Yet those who have "pushed it" have LOST in the court of law. Too bad that you are TOO STUPID to even keep up on current events. > On Oct 23, 4:15 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 23, 12:17 am, "[ vote for America ! vote for anybody but > > McCain ! ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > this was filled in penn not washinton state . > > >http://idexer.com/2008/10/16/wa-2nd-man-files-suit-regarding-obama-ci... > > > WA: 2nd Man files suit regarding Obama citizenship status > > Yet another concerned citizen is going to the trouble of trying to get > > necessary answers for the American public about the citizenship status > > (or possible lack thereof) of Barack Obama. Steven Marquis, a resident > > of Fall City, Washington, has filed suit in Washington State Superior > > Court against Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed demanding > > verification of the Democrat Presidential nominee's citizenship > > status. Questions have been raised in various reports for several > > months now as to whether Obama was actually born in Hawaii as his > > campaign claims, or if he was, in fact, born in Kenya. If he was born > > outside of the United States of America, he is not a natural born > > citizen and is therefore disqualified from serving as President of the > > United States. > > >http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/Lawsuit_Sam_Reed/Press_Releas... > > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: > > > Contact: Steve Marquis > > Telephone Number: 425-698-7084 > > Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Web site address:http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/peoplesvoice.html > > > Averting a Crisis in Confidence; Citizen files Lawsuit Against > > Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed demanding verification of > > Barack Obama’s citizenship status. > > > Seattle WA. 10/9/2008 — Steven Marquis, a resident of Fall City WA > > today filed suit in Washington State Superior Court against Secretary > > of State Sam Reed demanding verification of Barack Obama’s citizenship > > status. > > > The complaint seeks specifically that the office of the Washington > > Secretary of State verify and certify that Mr. Obama is or is not a > > "natural born" citizen by producing original or certified verifiable > > official documents. The lawsuit argues that this certification should > > take place before the election to preclude a constitutional crisis and > > likely civil unrest should such certification, after the election, > > prove that Mr. Obama was not qualified for office. > > > The Complaint argues that the Secretary of State has the authority and > > duty to not only certify the voters but also and most importantly the > > candidates and in so doing prevent the wholesale disenfranchisement of > > voters who would had had an opportunity to choose from qualified > > candidates had the certification preceded the election process. > > > At this point, Mr. Obama has not allowed independent or official > > access to his birth records nor supporting hospital records. The > > Hawaii Health Department has violated Federal law by ignoring formal > > Freedom of Information requests for the same. Due to the facts and > > numerous other allegations that would challenge Mr. Obama’s > > fundamental qualifications for office, a Federal lawsuit was filed and > > is currently being heard in District Court, Pennsylvania. > > > Mr. Obama failed to respond to the District Court’s request to produce > > or allow access to the official documents (should they exist) and > > instead filed a motion to dismiss arguing the Plaintiff had no > > “standing” or right to know. This non-response as of 9/24/2008 in > > Federal court casts doubt on the veracity of the electoral system and > > is the principal reason for this lawsuit. The late entry of this suit > > is due in principal part to Mr. Obama’s delay and subsequent non > > response to reasonable request for valid certificates. Multiple > > requests for early certification to the Office of the Secretary of > > State has been rejected. > > > [clarification: The district court process itself demands a response > > from Mr. Obama. When a complaint is filed, the defendant has an > > opportunity to respond to the judge regarding the plaintiffs request > > for a preliminary injunction. Obama did respond, but not with the > > requested documentation, not even minimally so. He responded with a > > motion for dismissal based on “standing” rather than the merits of the > > case] > > > The Washington Secretary of State Office is specifically charged with > > certifying and guaranteeing the veracity of official documents and > > overseeing the elections to wit the people’s confidence in the > > fundamental aspect of democracy is maintained. To date, in this > > regard, Secretary of State Sam Reed has not carried out that > > fundamental duty. > > > This lawsuit demands injunctive relief directing Sam Reed, Secretary > > of State, carry out the duty of his office in this regard answering > > the formal complaints for verification of Mr. Obama and any other > > candidate appearing on the ballots issues through his office for which > > formal complaints have been received. > > > Interested Parties may contact Plaintive as follows: > > Contact: Steve Marquis > > Telephone Number: 425-698-7084 > > Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Web site address:http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/peoplesvoice.html > > >http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/Lawsuit_Sam_Reed/Complaint_Fi... > > > 1. MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF PLAINTIFF’S MOTION FOR AN INJUNCTIVE > > RELIEF ORDER > > > 1.1. Plaintiff Steven R Marquis, [hereinafter “Plaintiff”] hereby > > offers this memorandum in support of his motion for injunctive relief, > > to demand performance of constitutional duties related to the Office > > of Washington State, Secretary of State by Samuel Sumner Reed, a/k/a > > Sam Reed, [hereinafter Defendant”]. > > > 1.2. Plaintiff’s complaint challenges the presidential candidate Mr. > > Barack Obama’s eligibility to run for the Office of President and > > demands that the Office of Secretary of State make such determination > > by acquisition of original documentation or by receipt of verifiable > > information from another government entity so charged with overseeing > > the election process such as the Federal Elections Commission. > > > 1.3. Plaintive argues that when a challenge is received by the > > Washington State, Secretary of State to the qualification for office > > of a candidate appearing on the Washington State Ballot that the > > entire burden of proof falls on the Candidate for Office to present > > such information and documentation to the Washington State, Secretary > > of State as would be normal and customary to establish ones minimum > > qualifications for office. > > > 1.4. Plaintiff argues that the Office of Secretary of State has the > > Constitutional and Statutory authority to make such determinations as > > part of certifying and executing fair and open elections. > > > 1.5. Plaintiff argues that is it only sufficient to show reasonable > > cause for complaint to the Secretary of State for his Office to > > require documentation of the respective candidate relevant to > > determination of minimum qualification; that lacking explicit statute > > defining the requisite documentation that the Secretary of State has > > the intrinsic authority to set those reasonable standards that would > > establish certain confidence in the people in the electoral process. > > > 1.6. Plaintiff seeks focused and expedited review, to protect the > > veracity of the electoral process and maintain the people’s confidence > > in the government. > > > 2. COMPLAINT FOR INJUNCTIVE RELIEF - PRELIMINARY STATEMENT > > > 2.1. Article II, Section I of the United States Constitution, states > > in particular part, "No Person except a natural born citizen, or a > > citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this > > constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither > > shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have > > attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a > > resident within the United States." . > > > 2.2. Mr. Barack H. Obama is a candidate for United States Office of > > the President. However, Mr. Obama must meet the qualifications > > specified for the United States Office of the President, which is, he > > must be a "natural born" citizen. Mr. Obama has failed to demonstrate > > that he is a "natural born" citizen. There are other legal challenges > > before the Federal Courts regarding aspects of lost or dual > > citizenship. That challenge in an of itself further demonstrates > > plaintiff’s argument that reasonable doubt exists as to the veracity > > of the electoral process that would allow such fundamental questions > > exist at this late hour preceding the election. > > > 2.3. The Washington State office of Secretary of State is responsible > > for the veracity of the Washington State election process from > > verifying ahead of time the qualification of the voters, the ballots > > themselves, the candidates and the final counting and certification of > > results. That office is intended to be non-biased and to provide the > > critical sense of fairness and correctness necessary for the people to > > have faith in the fundamental underpinnings of the democratic basis > > for our republic. > > > 2.4. 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