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Fox News host Andrea Tantaros >> <http://www.salon.com/2014/08/20/foxs_andrea_tantaros_you_solve_it_with_a_bullet_to_the_head/> >> said that all Muslims are the same as ISIS, and implied that all Muslims >> should be met “with a bullet to the head”. >> >> Why *don’t* we hear Muslims condemning the barbarian ISIS terrorists? >> >> Turns out they *are* loudly condemning ISIS … but our press isn’t >> covering it. >> >> Father Elias Mallon of the Catholic Near East Welfare Association >> explains >> <http://www.cnewa.org/blog.aspx?ID=1856&pagetypeID=35&sitecode=HQ>: >> >> “Why aren’t Muslims speaking out against these atrocities?” The answer >> is: Muslims have been speaking out in the strongest terms, condemning the >> crimes against humanity committed by ISIS (or, as it is increasingly >> called, IS) and others in the name of Islam. >> >> Father Mallon is right … >> >> Vatican Radio – an official Vatican news site – reports >> <http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2014/07/25/worlds_muslim_leaders_condemn_attacks_on_iraqi_christians/1103410> >> : >> >> Two of the leading voices in the Muslim world denounced the persecution >> of Christians in Iraq, at the hands of extremists proclaiming a caliphate >> under the name Islamic State. The most explicit condemnation came from >> Iyad Ameen Madani, the Secretary General for the Organization of Islamic >> Cooperation, the group representing 57 countries, and 1.4 billion Muslims. In >> a statement, he officially denounced the “forced deportation under the >> threat of execution” of Christians, calling it a “crime that cannot be >> tolerated.” The Secretary General also distanced Islam from the actions of >> the militant group known as ISIS, saying they “have nothing to do with >> Islam and its principles that call for justice, kindness, fairness, freedom >> of faith and coexistence.” Meanwhile, Turkey’s top cleric, the spiritual >> successor to the caliphate under the Ottoman Empire, also touched on the >> topic during a peace conference of Islamic scholars. In a not-so-veiled >> swipe at ISIS, Mehmet Gormez declared that “an entity that lacks legal >> justification has no authority to declare war against a political >> gathering, any country or community.” He went on to say that Muslims should >> not be hostile towards “people with different views, values and beliefs, >> and regard them as enemies.” *** >> >> Gormez said death threats against non-Muslims made by the group, formerly >> known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), were hugely damaging. >> “The statement made against Christians is truly awful. Islamic scholars >> need to focus on this (because) an inability to peacefully sustain other >> faiths and cultures heralds the collapse of a civilization,” he told >> Reuters in an interview. >> >> 120 top Muslim scholars – including top religious leaders from Nigeria, >> Bosnia and Egypt - have written a letter condemning ISIS >> <http://lettertobaghdadi.com/index.php> as unIslamic. >> >> The Independent notes >> <http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/isis-concern-british-muslim-leaders-condemn-extremist-group-9599273.html> >> : >> >> Muslim leaders in Britain have condemned the extremist group Islamic >> State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis), expressing their “grave concern” at >> continued violence in its name. >> >> Representatives from both the Sunni and Shia groups in the UK met at the >> Palace of Westminster and relayed their message that the militant group >> does not represent the majority of Muslims. *** >> >> Shuja Shafi, of the Muslim Council of Great Britain, said: “Violence has >> no place in religion, violence has no religion. >> >> 100 Sunni and Shiite religious leaders from the U.K. produced a video >> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bd0Y6qWmlA> denouncing the Islamic >> State, saying they wanted to “come together to emphasise the importance of >> unity in the UK and to decree ISIS as an illegitimate, vicious group who do >> not represent Islam in any way.” >> >> Breitbart notes >> <http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/08/02/Indonesian-Muslim-Leaders-Condemn-ISIS-The-Public-Have-to-be-Critical> >> : >> >> Two prominent Muslim leaders are urging Muslim men not to join the >> radical jihadists. “The public have to be critical. This is not about >> [establishing] a Caliphate [Islamic State]; but [a group] working for its >> own cause and gains from a sectarian issue,” said Nahdlatul Ulama >> executive council chair, Slamet Effendy Yusuf >> <http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/08/02/muslim-leaders-condemn-support-isil.html>. >> The Nahdlatul Ulama is one of the largest Islamic organizations in the >> world and concentrates on traditional Islam. *** >> >> Muhammadiyah, an organization with 29 million members, is more modern, >> well-known for educational activities, and avoids politics. Secretary Abdul >> Mu’ti said ISIS does not represent Islam. “That’s my point, this >> [movement] is not in the context of religion [Islam],” Abdul said. “We all >> need to question the group’s goals. Don’t just follow radicals who tried to >> win their own wars in other countries; we will be the ones to suffer >> losses.” *** These men are not the first Muslim leaders to denounce the >> Islamic State. The International Union of Muslim Scholars (IUMS) spoke >> out against IS’s expulsion of Christians in Mosul >> <http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/23/Influential-Muslim-Group-Condemns-Christian-Treatment-by-Islamic-State-in-Iraq>. >> The group claimed the rejection >> <http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/23/us-iraq-security-christians-scholars-idUSKBN0FS17Z20140723> >> served to “violate Islamic laws, Islamic conscience and leave but a >> negative image of Islam and Muslims.” >> >> Al Arabiya News reports >> <http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/08/11/U-S-weighs-options-to-evacuate-trapped-Yazidis-.html> >> that the Arab League Chief denounced acts committed by the Islamic State in >> Iraq as “crimes against humanity,” demanding that they be brought to >> justice, and he: >> >> Strongly denounced the crimes, killings, dispossession carried out by >> the terrorist (ISIS) against civilians and minorities in Iraq that have >> affected Christians in Mosul and Yazidis. >> >> The Daily Star writes >> <http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2014/Aug-13/267022-al-azhar-condemns-isis-as-corrupt-and-a-danger-to-islam.ashx#axzz3B1ymBb5P> >> that Egypt’s highest religious authority – Al-Azhar’s Grand Mufti Shawqi >> Allam – denounced the Islamic State as a threat to Islam and said that the >> group violates Islamic law: >> >> [They] give an opportunity for those who seek to harm us, to destroy us >> and interfere in our affairs with the [pretext of a] call to fight >> terrorism. >> >> The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) – the largest Muslim >> group in the U.S. – called ISIS un-Islamic and morally repugnant,” notes >> that the Islamic State’s “human rights abuses on the ground are >> well-documented,” called the Islamic State “both un-Islamic and morally >> repugnant” and called the killing of American journalist James Foley >> “gruesome and barbaric”. See this >> <http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/12551-cair-condemns-isis-violence-and-rejects-calls-to-join-extremists-fighting-abroad.html>, >> this >> <http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/12610-cair-reiterates-condemnation-of-isis-violence-religious-extremism.html> >> and this >> <http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/12622-cair-condemns-barbaric-killing-of-american-journalist-james-foley-by-terrorist-group-isis.html> >> . >> >> The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) – the largest Muslim >> organization on the continent – released a statement >> <http://www.isna.net/isna-denounces-isis-attacks-on-iraqs-religious-minorities.html> >> denouncing the Islamic State “for its attacks on Iraq’s religious >> minorities and the destruction of their places of worship.” ISNA President >> Imam Mohamed Magid said, “ISIS actions against religious minorities in Iraq >> violate the Quranic teaching, ‘Let there be no compulsion in religion’ … ” >> adding, “Their actions are to be denounced and are in no way representative >> of what Islam actually teaches.” INSA condemned >> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/www.alexa.com/data/details/main?url=http://indianexpress.com/article/world/americas/top-muslim-groups-and-leaders-condemn-isis/> >> the vicious execution of Foley at the hands of the terrorist group ISIS, >> terming it as “un-Islamic behaviour”, and said: >> >> ISIS actions have never been representative nor in accordance to the >> mainstream teachings of Islam. This act of murder cannot be justified >> according to the faith practiced by over 1.6 billion people. >> >> The head Shia religious leader >> <http://www.ibtimes.com/ayatollah-ali-sistani-iraqs-highest-ranking-shia-cleric-issues-fatwa-shias-fight-isis-1600394> >> in Iraq and Sunni religious leaders >> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy9cFRe-8Lc> in Iraq have all condemned >> – and called for war against – ISIS. >> >> Al Jazeera reports >> <http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/08/islamic-state-our-top-enemy-saudi-mufti-2014819165435845901.html> >> : >> >> Saudi Arabia’s highest religious authority has condemned the armed >> groups Islamic State and al-Qaeda as apostates and labelled them the >> “number one enemy of Islam”. *** “Extremist and militant ideas and >> terrorism which spread decay on Earth, destroying human civilisation, are >> not in any way part of Islam, but are enemy number one of Islam, and >> Muslims are their first victims” …. >> >> The Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) released a statement >> <http://www.mpac.org/issues/national-security/isis-execution-of-american-journalist-underscores-need-to-combat-extremism.php#.U_Ya0fldV8E> >> condemning “the barbaric execution of American Journalist James Foley by >> the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).” MPAC urged “all people of >> conscience to take a stand against extremism” and offered condolences to >> Foley’s family. MPAC also noted the importance of countering ISIS and other >> extremist groups by working “to empower the mainstream and relegate >> extremists to the irrelevance they deserve.” >> >> >> >> >> *ISIS and Al Qaeda Are FAKE Muslims*The Intercept points out that ISIS >> has “ more in common with Mao’s Red Guards or the Khmer Rouge than it >> does with the Muslim empires of antiquity >> <https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/26/isis-islamic/>“. >> >> The 9/11 hijackers used cocaine and drank alcohol, slept with prostitutes >> and attended strip clubs … but they did not worship at any mosque. See >> this >> <http://web.archive.org/web/20011010224657/http://www.bostonherald.com/attack/investigation/ausprob10102001.htm>, >> this >> <http://web.archive.org/web/20010916150533/http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-warriors916.story>, >> this <http://www.newsweek.com/2001/10/14/cracking-the-terror-code.html>, >> this >> <http://web.archive.org/web/20011023132702/http://interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB1003180286455952120.htm>, >> this >> <http://web.archive.org/web/20090213114442/http://articles.latimes.com/2002/sep/01/nation/na-plot>, >> this >> <http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091101beforepinkpony#a091101beforepinkpony>, >> this <http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=23296> >> and this <http://www.youtube.com/embed/_qC0rEG_f3Y>. Hardly the acts of >> devout Muslims. >> >> Huffington Post reports >> <http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/jihadist-radicalisation-islam-for-dummies_b_5697160.html?utm_hp_ref=tw> >> : >> >> Can you guess which books the wannabe jihadists Yusuf Sarwar and >> Mohammed Ahmed ordered online from Amazon before they set out from >> Birmingham to fight in Syria last May? A copy of Milestones by the Egyptian >> Islamist Sayyid Qutb? No. How about Messages to the World: the Statements >> of Osama Bin Laden? Guess again. Wait, The Anarchist Cookbook, right? Wrong. >> >> Sarwar and Ahmed, both of whom pleaded guilty to terrorism offences last >> month, purchased Islam for Dummies and The Koran for Dummies. You could not >> ask for better evidence to bolster the argument that the 1,400-year-old >> Islamic faith has little to do with the modern jihadist movement. The >> swivel-eyed young men who take sadistic pleasure in bombings and beheadings >> may try to justify their violence with recourse to religious rhetoric – >> think the killers of Lee Rigby screaming “Allahu Akbar” at their trial; >> think of Islamic State beheading the photojournalist James Foley as part of >> its “holy war” – but religious fervour isn’t what motivates most of them. In >> 2008, a classified briefing note on radicalisation, prepared by MI5 s >> behavioural science unit, was leaked to the Guardian. It revealed that, >> “far from being religious zealots, a large number of those involved in >> terrorism do not practise their faith regularly. Many lack religious >> literacy and could . . . be regarded as religious novices.” The analysts >> concluded that “a well-established religious identity actually protects >> against violent radicalisation“, the newspaper said. [ Here's the >> Guardian report >> <http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/aug/20/uksecurity.terrorism1>.] >> >> For more evidence, read the books of the forensic psychiatrist and former >> CIA officer Marc Sageman; the political scientist Robert Pape [Pape found >> that foreign occupation - and not religion >> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/10/u-s-war-on-terror-has-increased-terrorism.html> >> - made certain Arabs into terrorists; the CIA's top Bin Laden hunter >> agreed >> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/head-cia-unit-tasked-killing-bin-laden.html>]; >> the international relations scholar Rik Coolsaet; the Islamism expert >> Olivier Roy; the anthropologist Scott Atran. They have all studied the >> lives and backgrounds of hundreds of gun-toting, bomb-throwing jihadists >> and they all agree that Islam isn’t to blame for the behaviour of such men >> (and, yes, they usually are men). Instead they point to other drivers of >> radicalisation …. When he lived in the Philippines in the 1990s, Khalid >> Sheikh Mohammed, described as “the principal architect” of the 11 September >> attacks by the 9/11 Commission, once flew a helicopter past a girlfriend’s >> office building with a banner saying “I love you”. His nephew Ramzi Yousef, >> sentenced to life in prison for his role in the 1993 World Trade Center >> bombing, also had a girlfriend and, like his uncle, was often spotted in >> Manila’s red-light district. The FBI agent who hunted Yousef said that he >> “hid behind a cloak of Islam”. Eyewitness accounts suggest the 9/11 >> hijackers were visiting bars and strip clubs in Florida and Las Vegas in >> the run-up to the attacks. The Spanish neighbours of Hamid Ahmidan, >> convicted for his role in the Madrid train bombings of 2004, remember him >> “zooming by on a motorcycle with his long-haired girlfriend, a Spanish >> woman with a taste for revealing outfits”, according to press reports. >> >> And alleged Boston marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was a pothead >> <http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/19/students-saw-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-on-umass-dartmouth-campus-after-bombings/>. >> And his brother Tamerlan looked more like an ego-driven hustler >> <http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/tamerlan.jpg> than a devout Muslim >> (that’s his Mercedes in the background). >> >> I agree with Bill O’Reilly when he said that it is unfair to call the >> Norwegian mass murderer a “Christian” >> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/07/bill-oreilly-is-right-its-unfair-to-call-the-norwegian-mass-murderer-a-christian-and-its-also-unfair-to-call-arab-terrorists-muslims.html>. >> Likewise, we shouldn’t call Arab terrorists “Muslims” >> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/07/bill-oreilly-is-right-its-unfair-to-call-the-norwegian-mass-murderer-a-christian-and-its-also-unfair-to-call-arab-terrorists-muslims.html> >> . >> >> Postscript: I am not a Muslim. I am, however, American. And knee-jerk >> hatred of any group of people based on their religion – including >> Christians, Jews or Muslims, – is deeply >> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/10/the-demonization-of-muslims-is-completely-at-odds-with-americas-founding-principles.html> >> anti -American >> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/10/the-demonization-of-muslims-is-completely-at-odds-with-americas-founding-principles.html> >> . >> >> And the most crazed, radical Islamic terrorists would >> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/iraq-afghanistan-libya-countries-u-s-regime-changed-going-chaos.html> >> never have gained power >> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/iraq-afghanistan-libya-countries-u-s-regime-changed-going-chaos.html> >> if the U.S. and our allies hadn’t overthrown the more moderate Arab leaders. >> >> http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/isis-common-maos- >> red-guards-khmer-rouge-muslim-empires-antiquity.html >> > -- > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. 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