His accent is most definitely North American, and if I were to guess, I would say Mid-Western.....Possibly Detroit? Chicago?
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 12:06 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > Where do you think the guy speaking and covering his face is from Plain > Ol? Jerusalem? > --- > he could be but I don't know. Do you? > > > > On Thursday, October 9, 2014 10:12:42 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> I apologize about the post above, I see that Google will not allow me to >> embed a video directly. >> >> Here is the video that I attempted to embed above. Not an American >> concern? Where do you think the guy speaking and covering his face is from >> Plain Ol? Jerusalem? >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoQcicRvzCQ >> >> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> <div id="fb-root"></div> <script>(function(d, s, id) { var js, fjs = >>> d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) return; js = >>> d.createElement(s); js.id = id; js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/ >>> all.js#xfbml=1"; fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs); }(document, >>> 'script', 'facebook-jssdk'));</script> >>> <div class="fb-post" data-href="https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v= >>> 10152432941818525" data-width="466"><div class="fb-xfbml-parse-ignore"><a >>> href="https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152432941818525";>Post</a> >>> by <a href="https://www.facebook.com/FOX13TampaBay";>FOX13 & >>> myfoxtampabay.com</a>.</div></div> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:18 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> seeing a gentile call a zionist jew a traitor to israel is just too >>>> funny. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:40:44 PM UTC-5, MJ wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *ISIS Has “More In Common With Mao’s Red Guards or the Khmer Rouge >>>>> Than It Does With the Muslim Empires of Antiquity” *Posted on September >>>>> 30, 2014 >>>>> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/isis-common-maos-red-guards-khmer-rouge-muslim-empires-antiquity.html> >>>>> by WashingtonsBlog >>>>> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/author/washingtonsblog> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Top Muslim Leaders Worldwide Say ISIS Is Not Really Islamic*ABC >>>>> News’ Laura Ingraham <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3slpfdO0iks>, >>>>> Fox News’ Sean Hannity >>>>> <http://s3.amazonaws.com/TVEyesMediaCenter/UserContent/10807/3882550.5529/FNC_08-12-2014_22.24.40.mp4>, >>>>> Fox & Friends >>>>> <http://mediamatters.org/embed/static/clips/2014/08/21/36488/fnc-ff-20140821-condemnationofisis> >>>>> and other U.S. media commentators say that Muslims are silent and >>>>> complicit >>>>> in the barbarian crimes of ISIS. Fox News host Andrea Tantaros >>>>> <http://www.salon.com/2014/08/20/foxs_andrea_tantaros_you_solve_it_with_a_bullet_to_the_head/> >>>>> said that all Muslims are the same as ISIS, and implied that all Muslims >>>>> should be met “with a bullet to the head”. >>>>> >>>>> Why *don’t* we hear Muslims condemning the barbarian ISIS terrorists? >>>>> >>>>> Turns out they *are* loudly condemning ISIS … but our press isn’t >>>>> covering it. >>>>> >>>>> Father Elias Mallon of the Catholic Near East Welfare Association >>>>> explains >>>>> <http://www.cnewa.org/blog.aspx?ID=1856&pagetypeID=35&sitecode=HQ>: >>>>> >>>>> “Why aren’t Muslims speaking out against these atrocities?” The >>>>> answer is: Muslims have been speaking out in the strongest terms, >>>>> condemning the crimes against humanity committed by ISIS (or, as it is >>>>> increasingly called, IS) and others in the name of Islam. >>>>> >>>>> Father Mallon is right … >>>>> >>>>> Vatican Radio – an official Vatican news site – reports >>>>> <http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2014/07/25/worlds_muslim_leaders_condemn_attacks_on_iraqi_christians/1103410> >>>>> : >>>>> >>>>> Two of the leading voices in the Muslim world denounced the >>>>> persecution of Christians in Iraq, at the hands of extremists proclaiming >>>>> a >>>>> caliphate under the name Islamic State. The most explicit >>>>> condemnation came from Iyad Ameen Madani, the Secretary General for the >>>>> Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the group representing 57 countries, >>>>> and 1.4 billion Muslims. In a statement, he officially denounced the >>>>> “forced deportation under the threat of execution” of Christians, calling >>>>> it a “crime that cannot be tolerated.” The Secretary General also >>>>> distanced >>>>> Islam from the actions of the militant group known as ISIS, saying they >>>>> “have nothing to do with Islam and its principles that call for justice, >>>>> kindness, fairness, freedom of faith and coexistence.” Meanwhile, >>>>> Turkey’s top cleric, the spiritual successor to the caliphate under the >>>>> Ottoman Empire, also touched on the topic during a peace conference of >>>>> Islamic scholars. In a not-so-veiled swipe at ISIS, Mehmet Gormez >>>>> declared that “an entity that lacks legal justification has no authority >>>>> to >>>>> declare war against a political gathering, any country or community.” He >>>>> went on to say that Muslims should not be hostile towards “people with >>>>> different views, values and beliefs, and regard them as enemies.” *** >>>>> >>>>> Gormez said death threats against non-Muslims made by the group, >>>>> formerly known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), were hugely >>>>> damaging. “The statement made against Christians is truly awful. Islamic >>>>> scholars need to focus on this (because) an inability to peacefully >>>>> sustain >>>>> other faiths and cultures heralds the collapse of a civilization,” he told >>>>> Reuters in an interview. >>>>> >>>>> 120 top Muslim scholars – including top religious leaders from >>>>> Nigeria, Bosnia and Egypt - have written a letter condemning ISIS >>>>> <http://lettertobaghdadi.com/index.php> as unIslamic. >>>>> >>>>> The Independent notes >>>>> <http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/isis-concern-british-muslim-leaders-condemn-extremist-group-9599273.html> >>>>> : >>>>> >>>>> Muslim leaders in Britain have condemned the extremist group Islamic >>>>> State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis), expressing their “grave concern” at >>>>> continued violence in its name. >>>>> >>>>> Representatives from both the Sunni and Shia groups in the UK met at >>>>> the Palace of Westminster and relayed their message that the militant >>>>> group >>>>> does not represent the majority of Muslims. *** >>>>> >>>>> Shuja Shafi, of the Muslim Council of Great Britain, said: “Violence >>>>> has no place in religion, violence has no religion. >>>>> >>>>> 100 Sunni and Shiite religious leaders from the U.K. produced a video >>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bd0Y6qWmlA> denouncing the Islamic >>>>> State, saying they wanted to “come together to emphasise the importance of >>>>> unity in the UK and to decree ISIS as an illegitimate, vicious group who >>>>> do >>>>> not represent Islam in any way.” >>>>> >>>>> Breitbart notes >>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/08/02/Indonesian-Muslim-Leaders-Condemn-ISIS-The-Public-Have-to-be-Critical> >>>>> : >>>>> >>>>> Two prominent Muslim leaders are urging Muslim men not to join the >>>>> radical jihadists. “The public have to be critical. This is not about >>>>> [establishing] a Caliphate [Islamic State]; but [a group] working for its >>>>> own cause and gains from a sectarian issue,” said Nahdlatul Ulama >>>>> executive council chair, Slamet Effendy Yusuf >>>>> <http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/08/02/muslim-leaders-condemn-support-isil.html>. >>>>> The Nahdlatul Ulama is one of the largest Islamic organizations in the >>>>> world and concentrates on traditional Islam. *** >>>>> >>>>> Muhammadiyah, an organization with 29 million members, is more modern, >>>>> well-known for educational activities, and avoids politics. Secretary >>>>> Abdul >>>>> Mu’ti said ISIS does not represent Islam. “That’s my point, this >>>>> [movement] is not in the context of religion [Islam],” Abdul said. “We all >>>>> need to question the group’s goals. Don’t just follow radicals who tried >>>>> to >>>>> win their own wars in other countries; we will be the ones to suffer >>>>> losses.” *** These men are not the first Muslim leaders to denounce >>>>> the Islamic State. The International Union of Muslim Scholars (IUMS) spoke >>>>> out against IS’s expulsion of Christians in Mosul >>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/23/Influential-Muslim-Group-Condemns-Christian-Treatment-by-Islamic-State-in-Iraq>. >>>>> The group claimed the rejection >>>>> <http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/23/us-iraq-security-christians-scholars-idUSKBN0FS17Z20140723> >>>>> served to “violate Islamic laws, Islamic conscience and leave but a >>>>> negative image of Islam and Muslims.” >>>>> >>>>> Al Arabiya News reports >>>>> <http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/08/11/U-S-weighs-options-to-evacuate-trapped-Yazidis-.html> >>>>> that the Arab League Chief denounced acts committed by the Islamic State >>>>> in >>>>> Iraq as “crimes against humanity,” demanding that they be brought to >>>>> justice, and he: >>>>> >>>>> Strongly denounced the crimes, killings, dispossession carried out >>>>> by the terrorist (ISIS) against civilians and minorities in Iraq that have >>>>> affected Christians in Mosul and Yazidis. >>>>> >>>>> The Daily Star writes >>>>> <http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2014/Aug-13/267022-al-azhar-condemns-isis-as-corrupt-and-a-danger-to-islam.ashx#axzz3B1ymBb5P> >>>>> that Egypt’s highest religious authority – Al-Azhar’s Grand Mufti Shawqi >>>>> Allam – denounced the Islamic State as a threat to Islam and said that the >>>>> group violates Islamic law: >>>>> >>>>> [They] give an opportunity for those who seek to harm us, to destroy >>>>> us and interfere in our affairs with the [pretext of a] call to fight >>>>> terrorism. >>>>> >>>>> The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) – the largest Muslim >>>>> group in the U.S. – called ISIS un-Islamic and morally repugnant,” notes >>>>> that the Islamic State’s “human rights abuses on the ground are >>>>> well-documented,” called the Islamic State “both un-Islamic and morally >>>>> repugnant” and called the killing of American journalist James Foley >>>>> “gruesome and barbaric”. See this >>>>> <http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/12551-cair-condemns-isis-violence-and-rejects-calls-to-join-extremists-fighting-abroad.html>, >>>>> this >>>>> <http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/12610-cair-reiterates-condemnation-of-isis-violence-religious-extremism.html> >>>>> and this >>>>> <http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/12622-cair-condemns-barbaric-killing-of-american-journalist-james-foley-by-terrorist-group-isis.html> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) – the largest Muslim >>>>> organization on the continent – released a statement >>>>> <http://www.isna.net/isna-denounces-isis-attacks-on-iraqs-religious-minorities.html> >>>>> denouncing the Islamic State “for its attacks on Iraq’s religious >>>>> minorities and the destruction of their places of worship.” ISNA President >>>>> Imam Mohamed Magid said, “ISIS actions against religious minorities in >>>>> Iraq >>>>> violate the Quranic teaching, ‘Let there be no compulsion in religion’ … ” >>>>> adding, “Their actions are to be denounced and are in no way >>>>> representative >>>>> of what Islam actually teaches.” INSA condemned >>>>> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/www.alexa.com/data/details/main?url=http://indianexpress.com/article/world/americas/top-muslim-groups-and-leaders-condemn-isis/> >>>>> the vicious execution of Foley at the hands of the terrorist group ISIS, >>>>> terming it as “un-Islamic behaviour”, and said: >>>>> >>>>> ISIS actions have never been representative nor in accordance to the >>>>> mainstream teachings of Islam. This act of murder cannot be justified >>>>> according to the faith practiced by over 1.6 billion people. >>>>> >>>>> The head Shia religious leader >>>>> <http://www.ibtimes.com/ayatollah-ali-sistani-iraqs-highest-ranking-shia-cleric-issues-fatwa-shias-fight-isis-1600394> >>>>> in Iraq and Sunni religious leaders >>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy9cFRe-8Lc> in Iraq have all >>>>> condemned – and called for war against – ISIS. >>>>> >>>>> Al Jazeera reports >>>>> <http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/08/islamic-state-our-top-enemy-saudi-mufti-2014819165435845901.html> >>>>> : >>>>> >>>>> Saudi Arabia’s highest religious authority has condemned the armed >>>>> groups Islamic State and al-Qaeda as apostates and labelled them the >>>>> “number one enemy of Islam”. *** “Extremist and militant ideas and >>>>> terrorism which spread decay on Earth, destroying human civilisation, are >>>>> not in any way part of Islam, but are enemy number one of Islam, and >>>>> Muslims are their first victims” …. >>>>> >>>>> The Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) released a statement >>>>> <http://www.mpac.org/issues/national-security/isis-execution-of-american-journalist-underscores-need-to-combat-extremism.php#.U_Ya0fldV8E> >>>>> condemning “the barbaric execution of American Journalist James Foley by >>>>> the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).” MPAC urged “all people of >>>>> conscience to take a stand against extremism” and offered condolences to >>>>> Foley’s family. MPAC also noted the importance of countering ISIS and >>>>> other >>>>> extremist groups by working “to empower the mainstream and relegate >>>>> extremists to the irrelevance they deserve.” >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *ISIS and Al Qaeda Are FAKE Muslims*The Intercept points out that >>>>> ISIS has “ more in common with Mao’s Red Guards or the Khmer Rouge >>>>> than it does with the Muslim empires of antiquity >>>>> <https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/26/isis-islamic/>“. >>>>> >>>>> The 9/11 hijackers used cocaine and drank alcohol, slept with >>>>> prostitutes and attended strip clubs … but they did not worship at any >>>>> mosque. See this >>>>> <http://web.archive.org/web/20011010224657/http://www.bostonherald.com/attack/investigation/ausprob10102001.htm>, >>>>> this >>>>> <http://web.archive.org/web/20010916150533/http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-warriors916.story>, >>>>> this >>>>> <http://www.newsweek.com/2001/10/14/cracking-the-terror-code.html>, >>>>> this >>>>> <http://web.archive.org/web/20011023132702/http://interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB1003180286455952120.htm>, >>>>> this >>>>> <http://web.archive.org/web/20090213114442/http://articles.latimes.com/2002/sep/01/nation/na-plot>, >>>>> this >>>>> <http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091101beforepinkpony#a091101beforepinkpony>, >>>>> this >>>>> <http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=23296> >>>>> and this <http://www.youtube.com/embed/_qC0rEG_f3Y>. Hardly the acts >>>>> of devout Muslims. >>>>> >>>>> Huffington Post reports >>>>> <http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/jihadist-radicalisation-islam-for-dummies_b_5697160.html?utm_hp_ref=tw> >>>>> : >>>>> >>>>> Can you guess which books the wannabe jihadists Yusuf Sarwar and >>>>> Mohammed Ahmed ordered online from Amazon before they set out from >>>>> Birmingham to fight in Syria last May? A copy of Milestones by the >>>>> Egyptian >>>>> Islamist Sayyid Qutb? No. How about Messages to the World: the Statements >>>>> of Osama Bin Laden? Guess again. Wait, The Anarchist Cookbook, right? >>>>> Wrong. >>>>> >>>>> Sarwar and Ahmed, both of whom pleaded guilty to terrorism offences >>>>> last month, purchased Islam for Dummies and The Koran for Dummies. You >>>>> could not ask for better evidence to bolster the argument that the >>>>> 1,400-year-old Islamic faith has little to do with the modern jihadist >>>>> movement. The swivel-eyed young men who take sadistic pleasure in bombings >>>>> and beheadings may try to justify their violence with recourse to >>>>> religious >>>>> rhetoric – think the killers of Lee Rigby screaming “Allahu Akbar” at >>>>> their >>>>> trial; think of Islamic State beheading the photojournalist James Foley as >>>>> part of its “holy war” – but religious fervour isn’t what motivates most >>>>> of >>>>> them. In 2008, a classified briefing note on radicalisation, prepared >>>>> by MI5 s behavioural science unit, was leaked to the Guardian. It revealed >>>>> that, “far from being religious zealots, a large number of those involved >>>>> in terrorism do not practise their faith regularly. Many lack religious >>>>> literacy and could . . . be regarded as religious novices.” The analysts >>>>> concluded that “a well-established religious identity actually protects >>>>> against violent radicalisation“, the newspaper said. [ Here's the >>>>> Guardian report >>>>> <http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/aug/20/uksecurity.terrorism1>.] >>>>> >>>>> For more evidence, read the books of the forensic psychiatrist and >>>>> former CIA officer Marc Sageman; the political scientist Robert Pape [Pape >>>>> found that foreign occupation - and not religion >>>>> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/10/u-s-war-on-terror-has-increased-terrorism.html> >>>>> - made certain Arabs into terrorists; the CIA's top Bin Laden hunter >>>>> agreed >>>>> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/head-cia-unit-tasked-killing-bin-laden.html>]; >>>>> the international relations scholar Rik Coolsaet; the Islamism expert >>>>> Olivier Roy; the anthropologist Scott Atran. They have all studied the >>>>> lives and backgrounds of hundreds of gun-toting, bomb-throwing jihadists >>>>> and they all agree that Islam isn’t to blame for the behaviour of such men >>>>> (and, yes, they usually are men). Instead they point to other drivers >>>>> of radicalisation …. When he lived in the Philippines in the 1990s, >>>>> Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, described as “the principal architect” of the 11 >>>>> September attacks by the 9/11 Commission, once flew a helicopter past a >>>>> girlfriend’s office building with a banner saying “I love you”. His nephew >>>>> Ramzi Yousef, sentenced to life in prison for his role in the 1993 World >>>>> Trade Center bombing, also had a girlfriend and, like his uncle, was often >>>>> spotted in Manila’s red-light district. The FBI agent who hunted Yousef >>>>> said that he “hid behind a cloak of Islam”. Eyewitness accounts suggest >>>>> the >>>>> 9/11 hijackers were visiting bars and strip clubs in Florida and Las Vegas >>>>> in the run-up to the attacks. The Spanish neighbours of Hamid Ahmidan, >>>>> convicted for his role in the Madrid train bombings of 2004, remember him >>>>> “zooming by on a motorcycle with his long-haired girlfriend, a Spanish >>>>> woman with a taste for revealing outfits”, according to press reports. >>>>> >>>>> And alleged Boston marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was a pothead >>>>> <http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/19/students-saw-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-on-umass-dartmouth-campus-after-bombings/>. >>>>> And his brother Tamerlan looked more like an ego-driven hustler >>>>> <http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/tamerlan.jpg> than a devout >>>>> Muslim (that’s his Mercedes in the background). >>>>> >>>>> I agree with Bill O’Reilly when he said that it is unfair to call the >>>>> Norwegian mass murderer a “Christian” >>>>> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/07/bill-oreilly-is-right-its-unfair-to-call-the-norwegian-mass-murderer-a-christian-and-its-also-unfair-to-call-arab-terrorists-muslims.html>. >>>>> Likewise, we shouldn’t call Arab terrorists “Muslims” >>>>> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/07/bill-oreilly-is-right-its-unfair-to-call-the-norwegian-mass-murderer-a-christian-and-its-also-unfair-to-call-arab-terrorists-muslims.html> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> Postscript: I am not a Muslim. I am, however, American. And knee-jerk >>>>> hatred of any group of people based on their religion – including >>>>> Christians, Jews or Muslims, – is deeply >>>>> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/10/the-demonization-of-muslims-is-completely-at-odds-with-americas-founding-principles.html> >>>>> anti -American >>>>> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/10/the-demonization-of-muslims-is-completely-at-odds-with-americas-founding-principles.html> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> And the most crazed, radical Islamic terrorists would >>>>> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/iraq-afghanistan-libya-countries-u-s-regime-changed-going-chaos.html> >>>>> never have gained power >>>>> <http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/iraq-afghanistan-libya-countries-u-s-regime-changed-going-chaos.html> >>>>> if the U.S. and our allies hadn’t overthrown the more moderate Arab >>>>> leaders. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/isis-common-maos-red- >>>>> guards-khmer-rouge-muslim-empires-antiquity.html >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>> >>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>> * It's active and moderated. 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