Sad for you Plain Ol': http://veritas.org/talks/resurgence-christianity-world-religion/?ccm_paging_p=5
http://www.anglicanjournal.com/articles/study-shows-resurgence-in-christianity-islam http://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2014/05/christianity-resurgent/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8970031/The-return-to-religion.html On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 1:56 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > Poor Keith.....Surrounded in life by muzzies. The world is filled with > muzzies! > > the Nation is becoming more and more "Zionist Xian" despite your > prediction to the contrary > --- > wrong again, yid-wanna-be. > > The decline of mainstream Protestantism in America over recent decades has > been well documented, but for much of that period Evangelical Christianity > appeared to be immune to that wider trend, as mega-churches continued to > grow and George W Bush took the White House. > > But now, according to Mark Chaves, a divinity and sociology professor > at Duke University and author of "America Religion: Contemporary Trends", > it seems that Evangelicals are now succumbing to the same forces of > secularization. > > Using data from the University of Chicago's General Social Survey > <http://www.norc.org/Pages/default.aspx>, Chaves discovers that among > White Evangelicals born in the decade 1981-90, some 22 per cent now say > they have no religion, a figure is close to the 24 per cent of mainstream > Protestants born in the same decade who say the same. > > What is interesting, is that if you go back a decade and look at White > Christians born 1971-80, just 12 per cent of Evangelicals say they have no > religious affiliation, compared with 19 per cent of mainstream Protestants: > the secularisation trends are clearly converging. > > This tallies with the anecdotal evidence that we picked up in Virginia > that suggested that non-belief was rising among the young Christian > community much faster than headline polls suggested. > > After several decades of doubt over the data, says Chaves, it is now clear > beyond reasonable doubt that America is secularizing, but that doesn't > answer a much trickier – and more interesting question: how far, and how > fast? > > America still feels highly religious on the surface, but is it possible > that attitudes to religion in the US could undergo a sudden shift – as they > have, say, on gay marriage – or is religion so fundamental to the US that > any change will continue to be incremental? > > Right now, the shift in attitudes to religion is, according to the famous > "nones" > Pew survey <http://www.pewforum.org/2012/10/09/nones-on-the-rise/>, > driven by so-called "generational replacement" – ie the younger generation > slowly becoming less religious and their attitudes filtering into society > and the polling data, as their parents and grandparents die off. > > If that trend continues, then change will be very slow. But there is > another scenario, which is when a shift in attitudes leaps across > generations, as happened with gay marriage, precipitating a much sharper > change which has seen those in favour of gay marriage leap from 33pc a > decade ago to 55-57 per cent today. (More trivially, a similar > cross-generational shift in attitudes has been seen, say, in attitudes to > smoking in bars, or wearing seat belts, or drink-driving.) > > Analysis of European secularisation might provide us some pointers for the > US going foward. There, according to analysis by David Voas, > <http://esr.oxfordjournals.org/content/25/2/155.abstract> a sociologist > at Essex University, it is clear that the rise of so-called "fuzzy > fidelity" – ie those with no explicit religious affliation, but who still > believe in some kind of higher power and go to church on Christmas – has > proved to be a "staging post on the road from religious to secular > hegemony". > > "Indifference," Voas writes in his 2008 paper The Rise and Fall of Fuzzy > Fidelity in Europe, "is ultimately as damaging for religion as scepticism." > > If that's the case in the US, then the belief among many Evangelicals that > the "nones" are still fundamentally religious may prove to be wishful > thinking. > > So will a gay marriage-like tipping point occur in the US? "Impossible!" I > hear you cry, but you only have to think of Ireland, where attitudes to the > Catholic church have shifted sharply in the last decade, or Quebec's "Quiet > Revolution" of the 1960s to realise that religion is not immune to such > changes. > > Despite the polling data showing the decline of US Christianity, there > isn't a single openly non-believing or secular member of Congress. There is > a huge disconnect there, which creates the potential for substantial latent > pressure for change: imagine, a decade from now, if attitudes towards > non-believers were to become as tolerant, say, as they have towards gay > marriage, how the dam might burst. > > This might not be so much a revolution, as a collective acceptance that – > as seems to have happened with gay marriage – people can be honest about > who they are, without fearing repercussions from friends, and family or > indeed, the moral collapse of society. > > > On Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:27:35 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> Poor Plain Ol'.....Surrounded in life by Zionist Xians. The world is >> filled with Zionist Xians! Tennessee is a State predominately of Zionist >> Xians! >> >> What's worse? That the Nation is becoming more and more "Zionist Xian" >> despite your prediction to the contrary! >> >> Wowzer! >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 1:11 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> "The enemy of your enemy is your friend". >>> --- >>> say the subservient zionist xians who facilitate israel's extortion of >>> American weapons and tax dollars. >>> >>> Christians in Israel and the occupied territories protested a new law >>> passed by the Israeli parliament making it illegal for missionaries to >>> proselytize Jews. Protestant churches charged that the law had been >>> “hastily pushed through parliament during the Christmas period when >>> Christians were busily engaged in preparing for and celebrating their major >>> festival.” The law made missionaries liable to five years’ imprisonment for >>> attempting to persuade people to change their religion, and three years’ >>> imprisonment for any Jew who converted. The United Christian Council >>> complained that the law could be “misused in restricting religious freedom >>> in Israel.” >>> >>> Donald Neff has been a journalist for forty years. He spent 16 years in >>> service for Time Magazine and is a regular contributor to Middle East >>> International and the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. He is the >>> author of five excellent books on the Middle East. >>> >>> Nonetheless, it came into force on April 1, 1978, prohibiting the >>> offering of “material inducement” for a person to change his religion. A >>> material inducement could be something as minor as the giving of a Bible. >>> Although the Likud government of Menachem Begin assured the Christian >>> community that the law applied equally to all religions and did not >>> specifically mention Christians, the United Christian Council of Israel >>> charged that it was biased and aimed specifically at Christians since only >>> Christians openly proselytized. Council representatives also cited >>> anti-Christian speeches made in the parliament during debate on the law. >>> Parliament member Binyamin Halevy had called missionaries “a cancer in the >>> body of the nation.” >>> >>> The next year Rabbi Ovadiah Yosef, considered a political moderate, >>> issued a religious ruling that copies of the New Testament should be torn >>> out of any edition of a Bible owned by a Jew. Israeli scholar Yehoshafat >>> Harkabi wrote that he was disturbed by “these manifestations of >>> hostility-the designation of Christians as idolaters, the demand to invoke >>> the ‘resident alien’ ordinances, and the burning of the New Testament.” >>> Observed Harkabi: “Outside of the Land of Israel Jews never dared behave in >>> this fashion. Has independence made the Jews take leave of their senses?” >>> >>> Desecration of Christian property and churches—arson, window breaking, >>> burning of the New Testament—had long marred relations between the two >>> communities. A small but fanatical group of Jews wanted no Christians, whom >>> they considered fallen Jews, in Israel. This virulent strain of prejudice >>> had been present since before the Jewish state was founded. >>> >>> For instance, after the capture by Jewish forces of Jaffa on May 13, >>> 1948, two days before Israel’s birth, there was desecration of Christian >>> churches. Father Deleque, a Catholic priest, reported: “Jewish soldiers >>> broke down the doors of my church and robbed many precious and sacred >>> objects. Then they threw the statues of Christ down into a nearby garden.” >>> He added that Jewish leaders had reassured that religious buildings would >>> be respected, “but their deeds do not correspond to their words.” >>> >>> On May 31, 1948, a group of Christian leaders comprising the Christian >>> Union of Palestine publicly complained that Jewish forces had used 10 >>> Christian churches and humanitarian institutions in Jerusalem as military >>> bases and otherwise desecrated them. They added that a total of 14 churches >>> had suffered shell damage, which killed three priests and made casualties >>> of more than 100 women and children. >>> >>> The group’s statement said Arab forces had abided by their promise to >>> respect Christian institutions, but that the Jews had forcefully occupied >>> Christian structures and been indiscriminate in shelling churches. It said, >>> among other charges, that “many children were killed or wounded” by Jewish >>> shells on the Convent of Orthodox Copts on May 19, 23 and 24; that eight >>> refugees were killed and about 120 wounded at the Orthodox Armenian Convent >>> at some unstated date; and that Father Pierre Somi, secretary to the >>> Bishop, had been killed and two wounded at the Orthodox Syrian Church of >>> St. Mark on May 16. >>> >>> Churches were again desecrated during the 1967 war when Israel captured >>> East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza, completing the occupation of all of >>> Palestine. On July 21, 1967, the Reverend James L. Kelso, a former >>> moderator of the United Presbyterian Church and long-time resident in >>> Palestine, complained of extensive damage to churches adding: “So >>> significant was this third Jewish war against the Arabs that one of the >>> finest missionaries of the Near East called it ‘perhaps the most serious >>> setback that Christendom has had since the fall of Constantinople in 1453.’” >>> >>> Kelso continued: “How did Israel respect church property in the >>> fighting...? They shot up the Episcopal Cathedral [in Jerusalem], just as >>> they had done in 1948. They smashed down the Episcopal school for >>> boys...The Israelis wrecked and looted the YMCA...They wrecked the big >>> Lutheran hospital...The Lutheran center for cripples also suffered...” >>> >>> Nancy Nolan, wife of a physician at the American University Hospital in >>> Beirut, who was in Jerusalem during and after the fighting, charged that >>> “while the Israeli authorities proclaim to the world that all religions >>> will be respected and protected, and post notices identifying the Holy >>> Places, Israeli soldiers and youths are throwing stink bombs in the Church >>> of the Holy Sepulcher. >>> >>> “The Church of St. Anne, who crypt marks the birthplace of the Virgin >>> Mary, has been severely damaged and the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem >>> also was damaged. The wanton killing of the Warden of the Garden Tomb >>> followed by the shooting into the tomb itself, in an attempt to kill the >>> warden’s wife, was another instance that we knew first-hand which >>> illustrated the utter disregard shown by the occupation forces toward the >>> Holy Places and the religious sensibilities of the people in Jordan and in >>> the rest of the world.” >>> >>> “The desecration of churches...includes smoking in the churches, >>> littering the churches, taking dogs inside and entering in inappropriate >>> manner of dress. Behavior such as this cannot be construed other than as a >>> direct insult to the whole Christian world.” >>> >>> Desecration has occurred not only in times of war. As recently as 1995, >>> an Israeli soldier, Daniel Koren, 22, entered St. Anthony Catholic Church >>> in Jaffa and went on a shooting rampage, firing more than 100 bullets in >>> the altar and the cross above it but causing no injuries. Koren said his >>> Judaic convictions forced him to destroy all physical images of God, and >>> admitted that he had staged a prior attack in Jerusalem’s Gethsemane Church. >>> >>> Perhaps the worst outbreak of organized desecration of Christian >>> institutions came on Sept. 10, 1963, when hundreds of ultra-orthodox Jews >>> simultaneously attacked Christian missions in Jaffa, Haifa and Jerusalem. >>> (One has to say “perhaps because reporting on this sensitive subject in the >>> U.S. media has been so poor over the decades.) At any rate, the attacks >>> were a concerted effort to intimidate Christians in Israel by a religious >>> vigilante group called Hever Peelei Hamahane Hatorati, the Society of >>> Activists of the Torah Camp. In an attack on the Church of Scotland school >>> in Jaffa, Christian children were beaten and considerable damage was caused >>> to the school by at least 200 rampaging Jews. >>> >>> Other attacks occurred at two nearby church schools, the Greek Catholic >>> missionary school of St. Joseph and a Christian Brothers school. In >>> Jerusalem, attacks occurred at the St. Joseph convent and the Finnish >>> Lutheran mission school. In Haifa, the American-European Beth El Messianic >>> Mission Children’s Hostel and School was attacked. No serious damage >>> occurred in any of the attacks except at the Scotland school. More than 100 >>> Jews were convicted in the attacks, none of them receiving more than small >>> fines and suspended sentences. >>> >>> The first half of the 1980s, with Likud governments in control, was a >>> particularly active period for Jewish bigots. On Oct. 8, 1982, the Baptist >>> Church in Jerusalem was burned down. Kerosene had been sprinkled on the >>> church’s wooden chapel, constructed in 1933. Although no one was ever >>> charged in the arson, the Baptist Center’s bookstore had been vandalized a >>> dozen times in previous years, and Jews were suspected. When the Baptists >>> sought to rebuild the church, Jews demonstrated against the project and the >>> Jewish district planning commission refused to grant a building permit. In >>> 1985, the Israeli Supreme Court advised the Baptists to leave the >>> all-Jewish area. >>> >>> On Christmas Day in 1983, a hotel in Tiberias where Christians held >>> meetings was set afire, the latest in a series of attacks on a small group >>> of about 50 Christians. Two Jews were arrested in the arson incident. Other >>> attacks included stones thrown through windows at the hotel while the group >>> was meeting and break-ins at the homes of members of the group. The >>> anti-missionary group Yad Le’Achim complained that Christian missionaries >>> were offering money, clothes, jewelry and tennis shoes to listen to >>> Christian lectures. >>> >>> Just over a fortnight later, on Jan. 11, 1984, suspected Jewish >>> extremists stacked hymnals on a piano in a Christian prayer room in >>> Jerusalem and set them afire. Also in the same week angry Jews protesting >>> Christian proselytizing caused Beth Shalom, a Christian evangelical group, >>> to withdraw its plans to build a multimillion-dollar hotel in Jerusalem. >>> Beth Shalom took its action after about 150 Jews showed up at a city >>> council meeting with placards reading “You can’t buy me” and “I didn’t >>> immigrate to live next door to missionaries.” A leader of the protest, >>> Rabbi Moshe Berlinger, compared Christian missionaries to Trojan horses. >>> >>> Jewish infringements on Christian rights became so bad by 1990 that on >>> Dec. 20 the leaders of Christian churches in Jerusalem took the >>> extraordinary decision to restrict Christmas celebrations to protest “the >>> continuing sad state of affairs in our land,” including encroachment by >>> Israel on traditional Christian institutions. Among concerns expressed by >>> the patriarchs and heads of churches were attempts by Jewish settlers to >>> move into the Old City and an “erosion of the traditional rights and >>> centuries-old privileges of the churches,” including imposition by Israel >>> of municipal and state taxes on the churches. >>> >>> The statement added: “We express our deep concern over new problems >>> confronting the local church. They interfere with the proper functioning of >>> our religious institutions, and we call upon the civil authorities in the >>> country to safeguard our historic rights and status honored by all >>> governments.” >>> >>> Anti-Christian prejudice helps account for the fact that the number of >>> Christian Palestinians in all of former Palestine had dwindled to only >>> 50,000 in 1995. They no longer were a major presence in either Jerusalem or >>> Ramallah, and they were fast losing their majority status in Bethlehem. >>> >>> When Israel was established in 1948, the Palestinian Christian community >>> had numbered 200,000, compared to roughly 600,000 Jews in Palestine at the >>> time. Now the Christians are not even one percent of the population of >>> Israel/Palestine. Of today’s estimated total 400,000 Christian >>> Palestinians, most now are living in their own diaspora, mainly in the >>> Americas. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:46:37 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>> >>>> "The enemy of your enemy is your friend". >>>> >>>> When your "Friends" from IS come to your house, and want to rape your >>>> wife, behead your children, and demand a tax from you because you think >>>> that their "silly little religion" is just that, "Silly"; remember this >>>> conversation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> you've obviously chosen sides between the jews and muzzies. >>>>> enjoy your silly religious war. >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, October 9, 2014 9:43:49 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Which one of these women are you now going to claim is wanting to >>>>>> jump in the swimming pool and is being discriminated against Plain Ol? >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: Displaying] >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, you are just flat out wrong here, and you refuse to see it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:03 AM, plainolamerican < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> claiming it is a part and parcel of your religion won't cut it. >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have no clue what Mollie Fermaglich's lawsuit is about, >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> reading comprehension deficiency noted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and don't care, but it has nothing to do with nor is it even >>>>>>> similar to Muslims trying to jam Sharia down Americans' proverbial >>>>>>> throats. >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> or similar to jamming judaic law and zionist extortion down American >>>>>>> throats. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:51:52 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Once again, Plain Ol' has confused one story with something that >>>>>>>> has absolutely nothing to do with another. It doesn't matter if you >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> Islamic, Jew, Christian, the swimming pool in question requires one to >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> in proper swimming attire, and dressing as if you are in a Level B >>>>>>>> Contamination Suit claiming it is a part and parcel of your religion >>>>>>>> won't >>>>>>>> cut it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have no clue what Mollie Fermaglich's lawsuit is about, and don't >>>>>>>> care, but it has nothing to do with nor is it even similar to Muslims >>>>>>>> trying to jam Sharia down Americans' proverbial throats. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 9:44 AM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mollie Fermaglich, 61, says when she protested working on >>>>>>>>> Passover, a colleague asked, “Just how Jewish are you?” according to >>>>>>>>> her >>>>>>>>> Manhattan Federal Court lawsuit against the Greenwich Village college. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Despite 20 years at NYU and a TV career working with Jerry >>>>>>>>> Seinfeld, William Shatner, Rita Rudner, Jackie Mason and others, >>>>>>>>> Fermaglich >>>>>>>>> claims she was repeatedly passed over for promotion in favor of >>>>>>>>> younger, >>>>>>>>> male, non-Jewish teachers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fermaglich is seeking $12 million in damages. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> An NYU spokesman said Fermaglich still teaches full-time at the >>>>>>>>> school, and the university “believes the facts demonstrate that there >>>>>>>>> is no >>>>>>>>> basis for her allegations.” >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 9, 2014 6:33:02 AM UTC-5, Travis wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> BareNakedIslam posted: " When Sabah Ali took her family to >>>>>>>>>> the Commerce City Recreation Center to swim, her clothing conformed >>>>>>>>>> to her >>>>>>>>>> religious beliefs, but not pool rules. "Why do I have to be half >>>>>>>>>> naked to >>>>>>>>>> swim? To enjoy my time with my kids?“ Ali asked, sobbing. "I want to >>>>>>>>>> ha" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> New post on *BARE NAKED ISLAM* >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.barenakedislam.com/?author=1> COLORADO: Muslim >>>>>>>>>> Baghead cries when turned away from public pool because of her >>>>>>>>>> sharia-compliant attire >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/10/08/colorado-muslim-baghead-cries-when-turned-away-from-public-pool-because-of-her-sharia-compliant-attire/> >>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>> BareNakedIslam <http://www.barenakedislam.com/?author=1> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When Sabah Ali took her family to the Commerce City Recreation >>>>>>>>>> Center to swim, her clothing conformed to her religious beliefs, but >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> pool rules. "Why do I have to be half naked to swim? To enjoy my >>>>>>>>>> time with >>>>>>>>>> my kids?“ Ali asked, sobbing. "I want to have the same rights as >>>>>>>>>> every >>>>>>>>>> citizen." 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