Hey Plain Ol'; Did you read your own article?
"*Although SOS does NOT follow a "Secular Steps" method, it also does not adopt a judgmental attitude to members or non-members who wish to."* In other words, (and if you read the column to the left (and the right) this organization admits that there is no other program, and to just "Grin and Bear It"..... On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:20 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > Although he might have asked for a secular program, there is no such > thing! (At least a 12 Step Program!) > --- > wrong again .... > http://www.sossobriety.org/12steps.htm > > > > On Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:11:55 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> I agree Bear, the comments are "On Point". I also concur that there are >> no "12 Step Programs" that DO NOT have a participant acknowledge a "Higher >> Power". This Higher Power can be "Allah, God, or whatever you choose to >> make that Higher Power be, so it is a non-denominational type of a >> program; and could be applied to Muslims, Christians, Jews, etc. (I am >> not necessarily familiar with the specific program this guy entered into, >> he could have very well been entered into a Christian based program that >> only acknowledged a Christian format). >> >> Having said that, I think the settlement is outrageous! This gentleman >> had a choice, stay in jail, or be released on probation, provided that he >> complete a 12 step program. Although he might have asked for a secular >> program, there is no such thing! (At least a 12 Step Program!) >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Bear Guy <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The comments are worth reading. Interesting how many think that forcing >>> someone in to a faith based program is fine. As long as it's their faith.... >>> >>> >>> $1.95M awarded to California atheist forced into religious drug >>> treatment program >>> >>> - >>> - 1:41 pm, October 15th, 2014 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> [image: $1.95M awarded to California atheist forced into religious >>> drug treatment program] >>> >>> Credits: FOTOLIA >>> >>> QMI AGENCY >>> >>> A California atheist was awarded $1.95 million after his refusal to >>> complete a faith-based treatment program for drug offenders landed him back >>> in jail. >>> >>> Barry Hazle Jr. spent 2006 in a Shasta County jail for possession of >>> methamphetamine. He was released on parole with the condition he attend a >>> 90-day drug treatment program, according to court documents. >>> >>> Hazle made repeated requests to be placed in a secular program when he >>> discovered the one he was in "required him to acknowledge a higher power," >>> but he was denied. >>> >>> When the treatment centre reported he was "disruptive," his parole was >>> revoked and he was put back in jail for 100 days. >>> >>> On Tuesday, Hazle and his lawyers announced they had reached a financial >>> settlement with the state and with Westcare, the private firm that placed >>> him in the program, the *San Francisco Chronicle *reported. >>> http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/world/archives/2014/ >>> 10/20141015-134141.html >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>> >>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "PoliticalForum" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "PoliticalForum" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PoliticalForum" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
