Note:  by automatic updates from msft, I mean that they notify me and I then
do the updates.  only mcafee does them without my doing anything.  I use IE&
and realplayer does YT downloads just fine since the last RP upgrade a few
months ago.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:56 PM, d.b.baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
>
> On Oct 28, 6:12 pm, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I do not allow ANY automatic updates.
>
> Agree. Are you running Vista?
>
> Regarding Real Player, I may experiment with IE to see if it will
> download in YouTube, although I tend to doubt it.
>
> On the other hand, I also have to use IE to download PDF files -
> Firefox freezes up.
>
> Regarding MS, they also run "stealth" Vista updates which override the
> "Off" function. They've been doing a lot less "stealthing" lately,
> that is, after being outed - but they're still hard to catch and stop
>  when connected to a high speed connection. My Vista system is on dial-
> up.
>
> Meanwhile, the best one I've heard was about MS's chief system
> designer complaining to his underlings that he couldn't get his HP/
> printer to run on his home Vista. True or false (the story), Vista was
> an exercise of extreme contempt and arrogance.
> >
>


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