He has the right idea there. On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 8:42 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Home <http://aattp.org> • Most Popular on AATTP > <http://aattp.org/category/most-popular-on-aattp/> • ‘Christian’ Pastor > Calls for Genocide of All Muslims > ‘Christian’ Pastor Calls for Genocide of All Muslims > > Posted by: Josh Kilburn <http://aattp.org/author/josh-kilburn/> in Most > Popular on AATTP <http://aattp.org/category/most-popular-on-aattp/>, Racism > in America <http://aattp.org/category/racism-in-america/>, Religion > <http://aattp.org/category/religion/>, TEApublicans in Action > <http://aattp.org/category/teapublicans-in-action/>, World > <http://aattp.org/category/world/> September 7, 2014 > Republish Reprint > > <http://license.icopyright.net:80/rights/oneButtonTag.act?tag=3.14228?icx_id=70591> > > Are you ready for another game of “Right-Wing American Christian or > Radical Islamic Cleric?” > > Writing for *Charisma* magazine, Christian Reverend Gary Cass, President > and CEO of defendchristians.org, not only > <http://aattp.org/christian-taliban-cleric-phil-robertson-on-isis-convert-them-to-christianity-or-kill-them-video/> > echoes > <http://aattp.org/guest-slams-hannity-for-phil-robertsons-convert-or-kill-remark-doesnt-that-sound-like-isis-video/> > Phil Robertson of *Welfare Dynasty *fame > <http://aattp.org/ed-schultz-slams-phil-robertsons-convert-or-die-plan-for-isis/>, > but also gleefully skips right past the usual “plausible deniability” that > Fundies typically practice and dives right for the *Mein Kampf*, > suggesting that we deport, sterilize, or murder Muslims. He doesn’t even > stop short of calling for a new Crusade, since he does that, too. > > He begins his piece by telling his audience that he’s “Islamaphobic,” and > adds that it’s “for very good reasons. He tells his audience that his > belief isn’t based on “an irrational fear.” He claims that it’s “an > historic [*sic*], clear eyed, informed, rational fear.” > > Pouring the paint on the steamroller he’s going to use to crush all > Muslims, he says that “every true follower of Muhammad” wants to “dominate > the world” because they believe they were given “mandate by Allah” (as > opposed to all the Christians who think that mandate covers just the United > States). To back up his claim, he cites the tragically under-recognized > Armenian Genocide, which was executed by the Turks. Since, as we all know, > the Ottoman Turks were representative of every Muslim who ever lived. > > He then offers three possible solutions to this, but then adds that > “really there’s only one.” > Solution 1: Convert > > He cites from Genesis, and adds that converting them is “not biblically > doable.” He explains that this is because “God has a plan and he revealed > it at the birth of Ishamel, the father of the Arabs.” > > Yes, reverend, because all Muslims are Arabs, and all Arabs are Muslims. > Indonesia isn’t the largest Muslim country in the world and there’s no such > thing as Arab Christians. > > “Arab Muslims,” he says, “Are god’s sworn enemies and are ordained by God > to be against everyone.” According to him > <http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/45300-why-i-am-absolutely-islamaphobic> > : > > That’s not to say there will not be a small percentage of Muslims who will > be saved by faith in Christ. But even if they escape with their lives after > “apostatizing” from Islam, their influence will be negligible. History does > not record a mighty move of God in saving masses of Muslims. I believe the > Scriptures militate against mass Muslim conversions. > > If we’re pinning historical events on God, what’s that mean for the > Holocaust? And if that’s an action of “Satan,” how do you know that Satan > hasn’t thwarted God from saving Muslims? > Solution 2: DAMN (Deport All Muslims Now) > > Citing Spain shortly after the Reconquista, the reverend suggests we > deport Muslims. But, failing that, he has another solution > <http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/45300-why-i-am-absolutely-islamaphobic> > (bolding > mine): > > Muslims in America are procreating at twice the rate of other groups. *So > either we force them all to get sterilized*, or we wait for the “Army of > Islam” to arise in our midst and do what Muslims always do, resort to > violence. > > Just remember; an editor at *Charisma* approved this. > > He continues > <http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/45300-why-i-am-absolutely-islamaphobic> > : > > Just see what they are doing in France, Britain and Scandinavia. Fat > chance our politicians will do anything until it’s too late, unless, of > course, “We the People” demand otherwise. But history shows America is > always late to the fight. Or we can do what most Americans are > doing—wishfully think we are the exception and Muslims will all of a sudden > change and want to co-exist. This is irrational and stupid, but it makes > life more tolerable. Knowing that every radical Muslim in America is > conspiring to kill you and yours is terrifying. > > It’s nice to see 21st century red-baiters are finally going green > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_in_Islam>, isn’t it? > Solution 3: The Final Solution > > The final solution, according to the Reverend, is, predictably, violent > <http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/45300-why-i-am-absolutely-islamaphobic> > : > > The only thing that is biblical and that 1,400 years of history has shown > to work is overwhelming Christian just war and overwhelming self-defense. > Christian Generals Charles Martel in 732 and Jon Sobieski in 1672 defeated > Islamic Turks and their attempts to take the West. Who will God raise up to > save us this time? Will God even intervene or turn us over to the Muslims > for turning against Him? > > The Seljuq Turks weren’t Islamic in 732, Reverend, that happened in > 982. Martel defeated the Umayyad Caliphate at Tours in October of 732, and > since the Umayyad family were from Mecca, not Central Asia, they were > Arabs, not Turks. > > Then, he recommends Christians form their own terror cells, in the event > that “some thing catastrophic happens > <http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/45300-why-i-am-absolutely-islamaphobic> > :” > > Either way, we must be prepared for the increase of terror at home and > abroad. This is not irrational, but the loving thing we must do for our > children and neighbors. First trust in God, then obtain a gun(s), learn to > shoot, teach your kids the Christian doctrines of just war and > self-defense, create small cells of family and friends that you can rely on > if some thing catastrophic happens and civil society suddenly melts down. > > Not irrational? I can’t think of a better word for it than > irrational. Hate and paranoia are never rational, and regardless how hard > he tries to intellectualize that hate, it’s still ugly, and it’s still hate. > > h/t Slacktivist > <http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2014/09/07/charismanews-com-goes-full-on-hutu-radio/> > ---- > > Right Wing Watch > <http://www.loonwatch.com/2014/09/radical-right-wing-christians-who-supported-the-iraq-war-want-to-convert-deport-and-kill-muslims/www.rightwingwatch.org> > recently brought to our attention the Christian dominionist, Gary Cass’ > call for Holy War against Muslims > <http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/gary-cass-calls-holy-war-islam-has-no-place-civilized-society>, > in an article titled, “I’m Islamaphobic, Are You? > <http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:UWvb-YtDzE0J:https://defendchristians.org/commentary/im-islamaphobic-are-you/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a>” > Cass is a former San Diego GOP official and founder of the organization > “*Defend > Christians: A Ministry of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission.*” > > Cass’ article was originally published on the website of the popular > Evangelical Christian magazine, Charisma <http://www.charismamag.com/>. > The article was pulled down > <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/08/charisma-news-islamophobic_n_5786942.html> > without any apology or note as to why it was published in the first place > or why it was subsequently pulled; it is still proudly displayed on Cass’ > website. > > Many Christian writers > <http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2014/09/08/so-who-is-this-gary-cass-guy/> > and commenters > <http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2014/09/07/charismanews-com-goes-full-on-hutu-radio/> > were deeply offended by the bellicose religious hatred and call to violence > in the article, deeming it “Anti-Christ.” A minority of Christians however > supported the article as can be witnessed in the comment section to Cass’ > article. > > Cass writes in racialist terms about Muslims, stating for instance that > the *“vicious seed of Ishmael”* must be *“crushed.”* This > characterization of Muslims is based on a particular interpretation of Genesis > 16:11-12 > <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+16:11-12&utm_expid=13466113-11.e_eljl4ZQueab2zC5ghezw.0&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D1%26ved%3D0CCAQFjAA%26url%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.biblegateway.com%252Fpassage%252F%253Fsearch%253DGenesis%252B16%253A11-12%26ei%3D28EYVKHQAtGoyASfvICIBA%26usg%3DAFQjCNEtM8-AfOaaAK6GX8UU2y8m5Qxv_w%26bvm%3Dbv.75097201%2Cd.aWw> > that some Christians such as former Florida congressman Allen West > <http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/11/christian-supremacist-allen-west-likely-winner-in-florida/> > have forwarded about Islam, Arabs and Muslims. > > Cass says that what ISIS is doing is real Islam and we should thank them > for their actions, which is the same vile view propagated by the likes of > Deacon > Robert Spencer <http://spencerwatch.com/spenceritis/>. > > ISIS (sic) is doing to America journalists what every true follower of > Mohammed wants to do to you and yours; subjugate or murder you. They > believe they have been given a mandate by Allah (Satan) to dominate the > world. > > Cass proposes three possible “solutions” and in fact only one “real > solution.”: > > *1.) Conversion:* Wouldn’t it be wonderful to see Muslims turn from Satan > (Allah) to Christ? But, I agree with Phil Robertson, this is not biblically > doable. Why? God has a plan and he revealed it at the birth of Ishmael, the > father of the Arabs. “The Angel of the Lord said….He [Ishmael] will be an > ass of a man; His hand shall be against every man, and every man’s hand > against him…” (Genesis 16:11,12) The Arab Muslims are God’s sworn enemies > and are ordained by God to be against everyone. That’s not to say there > will not be a small percentage of Muslims who will be saved by faith in > Christ. But, even if they escape with their lives after “apostatizing” from > Islam, their influence will be negligible. History does not record a mighty > move of God in saving masses of Muslims. I believe the scriptures militate > against mass Muslim conversions. > > *2.) D.A.M.N.:* Depart All Muslims Now. Deport them like Spain was forced > to do when they deported the Muslim Moors. Muslims in America are > procreating at twice the rate of other groups. So, either we force them all > to get sterilized, or we wait for the “Army of Islam” to arise in our midst > and do what Muslims always do, resort to violence. Just see what they are > doing in France, Britain and Scandinavia. Fat chance our politicians will > do anything until its too late, unless, of course, “We the People” demand > otherwise. But, history shows America is always late to the fight. Or, we > can do what most Americans are doing, wishfully think we are the exception > and Muslims will all of a sudden change and want to co-exist. This is > irrational and stupid, but it makes life more tolerable. Knowing that every > Mosque in America is conspiring to kill you and yours is terrifying. > > *3.) Violence:* The only thing that is biblical and that 1400 years of > history has shown to work is overwhelming Christian just war and > overwhelming self defense. Christian Generals Charles Martel in 732 and Jon > Sobieski in 1672 defeated Islamic Turks and their attempts to take the > West. Who will God raise up to save us this time? Will God even intervene > or turn us over to the Muslims for turning against Him? > > Cass is right about one thing, Muslims are not about to leave Islam for > Christianity despite centuries of bloody effort by various Christian kings > and states. > > There isn’t much need to highlight the self-evident warped and repugnant > nature of the American-Christian-kill-Muslims-brigade. The vast majority of > American Christians reject them as imbeciles and I would agree with them > that such Christians are in fact “Anti-Christ.” > > One fact I want to expose and stress however is the canard that violence > in the name of Christianity is a thing of the past. This idea is not only > prevalent among Christians but is also propagated by Ex-Christians such as > Bill > Maher > <http://www.loonwatch.com/2014/09/radical-right-wing-christians-who-supported-the-iraq-war-want-to-convert-deport-and-kill-muslims/www.loonwatch.com/?s=Bill+Maher&x=0&y=0> > who was recently on Charlie Rose > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjInNxIwfRw> propagating this idea. > > Lest anyone forget, there was a whole machine of fervent, zealous > Christians who practically worshiped President George W. Bush > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxdt_f0hwUg> and were shouting > *“Halleluja!”* and *“Glory to Christ!”* when he announced that the USA > was going to invade Iraq in 2003. > > Iraq had zero Alqaeda influence or presence prior to the 2003 invasion. > The status of Christians was good, they weren’t a persecuted minority, > whereas today the situation is a catastrophe. The pastors, Christian > writers and officials who supported and prayed for that war are implicated > in the destruction of Iraq and the creation of ISIS. > > Gary Cass, who now calls for converting, deporting and killing Muslims is > one such hypocrite who is responsible for the creation of ISIS and the > destruction of Iraq. > > In 2007, Cass was on CNN where he was asked by host Roland Martin, *“how > would Jesus vote on the war in Iraq?”* > > According to Cass, Jesus would be all for the Iraq war > <http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:2KBZ8FecNKUJ:defendchristians.org/commentary/dr-cass-on-cnn-prime-time-special-what-would-jesus-really-do/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a> > since it would liberate “his people.” > > *CASS: *Well, I absolutely believe the Republican position is the right > one. Self-defense is a duty we all owe to ourselves, our families and our > neighbor. And it’s the first duty of government. A strong defense is > essential. The Iraq war was justified on the basis of the intelligence that > we had at the time. So, self-defense and liberating those under tyranny are > Christian virtues just as Christ defends and liberates his people. > > Any Christian who supported the invasion of Iraq and now complains about > ISIS should be shamed in public and exposed for all to see. As for Gary > Cass, he may be nothing but hot air but he exposes a virulent extremist and > radical element that is flourishing on the Christian right. > > > On Monday, December 1, 2014 3:37:36 PM UTC-6, Travis wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/12/the_war_ >> preachers_of_islam.html >> >> December 1, 2014 >> The War Preachers of Islam >> >> By James Lewis <http://www.americanthinker.com/author/james_lewis/> >> >> “I hate your government, your lies, your corruption, your religion, your >> double standard and your hypocrisy,” wrote the son of Ayatollah Rouhani, >> just before he killed himself. >> >> “I was forced to lie to my friends each day, telling them that my father >> isn’t part of all of this. Telling them my father loves this nation, >> whereas I believe this to be untrue. It makes me sick seeing you, my >> father, kiss the hand of [Supreme Leader Ali] Khamenei.” >> >> So reported the Saudi-funded London paper *al-Sharq al-Awsat* >> <http://nypost.com/2013/06/20/damning-suicide-note-to-irans-new-prez/>. >> >> That tragic suicide note shows a modern-minded, idealistic young man -- >> who had the misfortune of being imprisoned by a war-making priesthood, his >> own father being his own worst jailer. While New York *Times* >> disinformation has it that Rouhani, Sr. is the smiling face of Iran, the >> children of the regime know better. Rouhani is a war priest, spreading the >> doctrines and practices of holy war. >> >> The basic rule for hagiocracies -- rule by power-hungry priests -- is >> that they all claim to serve God, but end up serving only themselves. Look >> at the mullahs of Iran and the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia for just two >> examples. Both have financed four decades of hate propaganda against the >> West and Israel -- and each other. *Without that hate propaganda the >> Long Jihad would never have started.* >> >> And yes, there are peaceful Muslims -- in the Islamiyya sect, the >> Bahaii’s, many Sufis. Some Shi’ites are pacifists. Many Muslims act >> peacefully for practical reasons. Yet they also follow preachers who >> constantly talk about Jihad in their Friday sermons. Muslim apologists will >> tell you that “jihad” means “inner struggle,” but it also means ruthless >> murder of innocent civilians -- including children -- just like the >> atrocities we see today. There is no getting away from the fact that >> “striking at the neck” (decapitation) is a Koranic commandment. >> >> After initially denouncing ISIS as barbarians, the Saudis have admitted >> that yes, ISIS is just following Allah’s commandments. Like Japan’s Divine >> Emperor cult, jihad must be confronted for what it is, never mind all the >> blind evasions. >> >> It’s easy enough to get confused by all the front names for jihad. But >> underneath they are all the same. When it comes to priestly war doctrines, >> Iran = ISIS = Saudi Arabia = Qatar = Hamas = Hizb’allah = CAIR = Muslim >> Brotherhood. That’s the whole point about a universal war theology. >> >> Yes, the different sects fight each other. But they all are taught to >> convert infidels by war, missionary propaganda, personal persuasion, >> flattery, influence buying, sabotage, and deception. >> >> Religious war dogma does not necessarily lead to direct violence; but >> historically, the two great branches of Islam, the Sunnis and Shi’ites, >> have never been at peace with each other. The tremendous expansion of Islam >> after Mohammed’s death spread from Persia to Turkey, North Africa and >> India, to the Balkans and Europe. Violent jihad was the key to the spread >> of Islam. It still is. >> >> The Western public still doesn’t understand this, which is why the >> atheistic Left, for example, can passionately support Holy War gangs like >> Hamas, which follows ISIS doctrines word for word. But simply read H.G. >> Wells’ *Outline of History *online >> <http://archive.org/details/OutlineOfHistory>, or any other history >> written before the Age of PC, and all the facts are there. >> >> During the British Raj in India the British became very skilled at >> setting different creeds and local rulers against each other. That is how >> they governed a vast subcontinent with small numbers of British and Irish >> troops, along with many native regiments. Many of the local rulers were >> Muslims. >> >> The Indian Partition of 1948 pitted Muslims against non-Muslims, with >> some three million dead. Muslim Pakistan has never stopped launching terror >> attacks against India. Yet India has managed to live with a substantial >> Muslim population. Unlike the West, India does not delude itself about >> violent Islam. That is a mature approach to Islamic aggression, one that >> the West has not yet achieved. India shows that nations can live with >> Muslim populations, and even with hostile Muslim neighbors like Pakistan. >> But it can’t be done by deceiving ourselves, the way our politicians have >> deceived us. Telling the truth is a first step, an absolute necessity for >> reaching some workable accommodation. >> >> Western commentators can’t even seem to think of the right word for the >> outbreak of global jihad since the 1973 Arab Oil Embargo. Should it be >> called “the Islamic Awakening” or “the Muslim Ascendancy? “ >> >> I don’t think so. It should be called what it is, the *Great Muslim >> Regression *-- a vast reactionary movement to pre-modern hagiocracies >> that were suppressed by secular dictators in the 20th century. >> >> The Jihad War is also *a war against modernity *-- including all the >> humane and scientific advances that more flexible civilizations have >> achieved since the Italian Renaissance. Jihadists love the burp guns >> produced by Western technology, but they will never understand the >> scientific worldview, nor the societies that build science and high >> technology. >> >> John Kerry is incapable of facing that nasty truth, which is “so 20th >> century” (in his words). Kerry honestly thinks human nature has changed >> permanently for the better. But history will have the last word. >> >> Aldous Huxley’s wrote two great books about the psychology of religious >> fanatics, *The Devils of Loudun * >> <http://www.amazon.com/Devils-Loudun-Aldous-Huxley/dp/0061724912/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1417046155&sr=1-6&keywords=aldous+huxley>-- >> (made into a movie called *The Devils*) -- and *Grey Eminence* >> <http://www.amazon.com/Grey-Eminence-Aldous-Huxley/dp/0099477823/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1417046318&sr=1-1&keywords=aldous+huxley+grey+eminence> >> .* Grey Eminence *follows the life of Cardinal Richelieu’s Father Joseph >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Leclerc_du_Tremblay>, the >> Catholic monk and mystic who helped to stir up holy wars against the >> enemies of France, including the Habsburgs and the Turks. Father Joseph >> whipped up war “ad maiorem Dei gloriam >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_maiorem_Dei_gloriam>” -- for the >> greater glory of God. That idea has now been revived in Islam. >> >> ISIS atrocities are not random, but prescribed *by the law of God *-- if >> you believe their war priests. Last month ISIS published its Koranic >> warrant for slave-taking and mass rape of Yazidi women and children, a >> warrant >> from God >> <http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/isis-releases-latest-magazine-dabiq-justify-enslavement-of-yazidis/>telling >> them that it’s really okay to revert to the worst kind of primitive >> barbarism. (Just don’t show the horrors on YouTube.) >> >> For Obama and the Europeans to enable Iran’s quest for a Bomb is >> therefore astoundingly stupid. Nobody will be safe with a Khomeinist bomb >> -- not Moscow or Beijing, New York or Tokyo. Vladimir Putin lives just >> fifteen minutes from Tehran by ICBM, and when Iran gets the Bomb nobody >> will be safe. >> >> History will surely see Obama’s nuclear surrender as the greatest folly >> ever, worse than the infamous appeasement of Hitler. 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