http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/terror-expert-shelley-speaks-of-islamic-state-business-model-a-1011492.html
Terror Expert Louise Shelley: 'Islamic State Is a Diversified Criminal
Operation'

[image: Photo Gallery: Funding the Jihad]

*SPIEGEL:* Professor Shelley, leaving aside the victims for a moment, what
does a terrorist attack actually cost the terrorists?

*Shelley:* At first glance, it is less than you think. To obtain weapons or
to train a small group of terrorists is not excessively expensive. Take
9/11 as an example: The costs are estimated at only $500,000. But I think
this is the wrong approach for a calculation. The essential question here
is: What are the costs of maintaining a terrorist organization
<http:///international/world/us-envoy-warns-no-short-term-solutions-for-stopping-islamic-state-a-1010880.html>?
You need tremendous logistics, you need to keep all the fighters motivated,
you have to take care of the families of terrorists who are killed, and so
on. You need many millions.

*SPIEGEL:* In your new book, "Dirty Entanglements: Corruption, Crime and
Terrorism", you write that every terrorist success story starts like the
establishment of a successful business: with the collection of seed money.
In al-Qaida's case, the money originated from Osama bin Laden's fortune.
Where does Islamic State's seed money come from?

*Shelley:* From two sources. The antecedents of IS received donations from
the Gulf States, but now it has smaller, new contributions from many
locales. The smuggling routes they are now using were also used during the
post-invasion period for low-level smuggling -- of cigarettes and
pornography.

*SPIEGEL:* Pornography?

*Shelley:* Yes, I was also surprised that there was such trade in the
region now under IS control. Now, IS is financing itself largely through
the oil trade, but also many other activities. It is a diversified criminal
operation.

*SPIEGEL:* What sort of activities?

*Shelley:* With looted art from the occupied territories, for example. It
is sold via Ebay, at art fairs or in premium antiquarian shops in Europe.
But that does not really bring in a lot of money because the market is
limited. The terrorists think quite broadly about their sources of
financial support and the number of potential customers for expensive items
is small. IS taxes trade, they make money from the passports sold by
foreign fighters, they sell mobile phones, trade in illicit cigarettes and
engage in kidnapping as well as human smuggling and trafficking. And, of
course, the arms trade. Other terrorist groups make money selling pirated
CDs and DVDs. Counterfeit goods, forged passports and documents, the
illicit wildlife trade and drugs earn a lot for terrorist groups.

*About Louise Shelley*

   - Louise Shelley, 62, is the founder and director of the Terrorism,
   Transnational Crime and Corruption Center at George Mason University. She
   is the author of "Dirty Entanglements: Corruption, Crime and Terrorism",
   which was published last July.

*SPIEGEL:* How do the trade routes work for such illicit deals?

*Shelley:* They simply use traditional trade relations. The connections
between Iraq, Syria or Turkey are hundreds, if not thousands, of years old.
They were parts of common empires throughout history. Corruption of
officials allows products to cross borders.

*SPIEGEL:* Does that mean that terrorist organizations are connected to
organized crime from the very beginning?

*Shelley:* I would not say they are connected to organized crime. They
participate in organized crime. Sometimes terrorist organizations outsource
criminal activities to organized crime groups, sometimes they keep them
in-house. In case of the latter, they bribe officials and execute the
operation by themselves. They use corruption as would an organized crime
group. IS was formed in the prisons of post-invasion Iraq, which were
crucial in forming the relations between the terrorists and the
criminalized Baathists of the Saddam Hussein regime.

*SPIEGEL:* Is it not actually taboo for jihadists to cooperate with regular
criminals?

*Shelley:* An interesting question. A lot of experts I talked to say that
for the Islamists, criminals are "usable". They are not untouchable. You
can recruit staff for the jihad from among criminals by promising them that
they will be cleansed of their sins. That is quite an attractive offer for
Muslims. Within IS are a lot of fighters with a criminal past.

*SPIEGEL:* Is it even okay for a "holy warrior" to smuggle porn, so long as
it serves a higher goal?

*Shelley:* What IS is teaching is not Islam. The terrorists have
reinterpreted Islam for their own purposes and they use this distorted
Islam to justify their actions. They do many things that are against Islam.
When Imams in Turkey and Saudi-Arabia re-educate former terrorists, they
explain that they have interpreted the Koran falsely.

*SPIEGEL:* That all sounds more like corporate interests than Caliphate
interests.

*Shelley:* Yes, that's right. By now, many IS documents have been
confiscated. In analysing them, you notice that the group is managed like a
regular business. With IS, as with other terrorist groups, there is proper
bookkeeping with a meticulous listing of incomes from different sources and
an offset of the expenses for salaries, bribery or weapons. Terror is also
a business -- a good one. Because terrorists operate like a business, it is
important to go after them with a variety of legal measures and not just
criminal law. Germany is now focusing on penal law but it has long
experience with administrative and regulatory law that would be very
helpful in addressing the facilitation of terrorist business practices.

*SPIEGEL: *We don't want this to sound nostalgic, but what happened to old
school terrorism? Did terrorist groups not have ideological goals in the
past?

*Shelley:* There has been a huge transformation in international terrorism
since the end of the Cold War. With the decline of state support for
terrorism, terrorists have turned more to crime. But even groups like the
IRA were deeply involved in criminal business and, at some point in time,
became more like criminals than like terrorists. If you continuously need
to gather money for your operations, that eventually becomes the center of
your thinking rather than ideology. Still the old alliances between
terrorism and crime differ from the modern ones.

*SPIEGEL:* In what way?

*Shelley:* Take the Mafia as a traditional form of trans-national crime.
They depended on the state for contracts. Both the mafia and the Yakuza in
Japan grew after World War II along with the postwar economies of Italy and
Japan. The Mafia became so powerful because it used state structures in
Italy and infiltrated them even up to top government circles. It grew with
the state and became rich. The Yakuza in Japan proceeded similarly. They
were part of the system and benefited from it. That is also the reason why
they did not attack the state like terrorists do. Today, there are global
networks for both crime and terrorism that operate outside the state, and
that is why it is much easier for both criminals and terrorists to operate
globally.

*SPIEGEL:* Has globalized capitalism corrupted terrorism?

*Shelley:* It is more complicated than that. Groups like IS are closer to
the historical trade traditions of the Middle East than to the industrial
capitalism we know today. That is why they are more focused on generating
money by trading in oil, other raw materials or goods to finance their
terrorist organization. That is why they also launder their money through
trade-based money laundering.

*SPIEGEL:* It appears that terrorist groups and international criminals are
among those who have profited from globalization.

*Shelley:* Indeed. We still think in state structures. And on the other
side are these groups that use the opportunities of globalization and the
vanishing of borders for their own purposes and earn money with it.

*SPIEGEL:* The revenues from all these commercial operations need to be
transferred from one place to the other. How important is the Hawala system
-- the transfer of money via trusted persons without the use of banks?

*Shelley:* Of course Hawala belongs to the system. But it is not as though
everything goes through informal systems; the money also intersects with
the legitimate economy. Oil smuggling involves more than criminal and
terrorist groups. Already in Saddam Hussein's Iraq, members of his Baath
Party participated in it and some former Baathists are part of IS and are
still participating in the oil trade today. It is not just a dirty
entanglement of terrorists and criminal groups within the state machinery.
It is a trade that interacts with the licit economy of trucks, tankers and
banks -- not only in Iraq, but worldwide.

*SPIEGEL:* Is cybercrime among the business sectors that terrorist groups
participate in?

*Shelley:* An interesting point, because nobody talks about it. When I talk
to government representatives, they tell me that we have to bomb IS
territory to deprive them of the possibility of continuing to earn money
with the oil trade. Then I say: And you believe that is how you end
terrorist financing? This is one of the basic mistakes in
counter-terrorism: We talk about following the money. Then, investigators
look back at what these groups did to make their money in the past. But
terrorists think like businessmen. They ask themselves: How can I make
money today and tomorrow? And cybercrime, of course, is part of that.
Members of the al-Qaida affiliate responsible for the devastating Bali
bombing in 2002, that killed 202 people, were sent to prison in Indonesia.
There, one of the leaders raised money for the cause through Internet
crime. There is more than a decade-long history of al-Qaida involvement in
fundraising through the Internet.

*SPIEGEL:* Does that apply to IS as well?

*Shelley:* At the moment, the group makes so much money with oil that they
do not need cybercrime. But of course it possesses the capabilities. You
only have to look at how professionally they use computer technologies, the
Internet and its social network capabilities
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for their public relations activities and recruitment. Additionally, these
groups are connected globally, exchange information and learn from each
other. Therefore, the past experience of al-Qaida is available to them.

*SPIEGEL:* In Germany everybody talks about terrorism, but few talk about
organized crime. Is there an underestimation of the danger that results
from the blending of these two sectors?

*Shelley:* I have noticed that in Germany there is little research on the
linkages of these phenomena. There is also little basic analysis on the
non-traditional security challenges facing Germany today. Germany is
surrounded by many regions of the world where dirty entanglements are
pervasive -- North Africa
<http:///international/world/islamic-state-expanding-into-north-africa-a-1003525.html>,
the Balkans, and the Middle East. Germany does not control its borders any
more. Yet there is little analysis on the consequences of this for Germany.
Few researchers are studying the reasons for, and the dimensions of,
illicit migration into Germany. In my conversations with the German
government, I talked about an African country that nobody has on the radar,
but because of its abundant natural resources, dozens of trans-national
criminal organizations are active there. I was asked: How do you know that?
And I replied: Because I do research! Germany was once known for its
research tradition. It should remember that.

*SPIEGEL:* What role does Germany play when it comes to the business
dealings of international terrorist groups?

*Shelley:* Think about the attacks on the World Trade Center on 9/11. It
was partly planned and prepared in Hamburg. Germany did not pay attention
to the problem of international terrorism then -- this country provided a
good retreat for such groups. Today, IS in Germany recruits hundreds of
volunteers to support terrorism. Part of the many millions of dollars that
were embezzled at the Afghan Bank have been run through Germany. The heroin
that helps support the Taliban likewise comes to Germany. There is no
doubt: The problem of international crime and trans-national terrorism is a
problem for your country, too.






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